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The cheapest and fastest buses from Berlin to Pisa

Showing times and prices for Jul 16

Cheapest price

$162

Average price

$203

Fastest journey

20 h 30 m

Average duration

21 h 30 m

Buses per day

18

Distance

1004 km

Cheap tickets

The best way to find a cheap bus ticket from Berlin to Pisa is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.

The average ticket from Berlin to Pisa will cost around $203 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $162.

Fast buses

It's difficult to get from Berlin to Pisa without transferring at least once.

  • FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus
    5:20 PM20h30
    Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB)
    1:50 PMPisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)
    $1621One-way
    1 transfer
  • FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus
    2:50 PM23h00
    Berlin, Central Station (Invalidenstraße)
    1:50 PMPisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)
    $1681One-way
    1 transfer
  • FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus
    3:15 PM22h35
    Berlin, Alexanderplatz
    1:50 PMPisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)
    $1711One-way
    1 transfer
  • FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus
    5:20 PM24h45
    Berlin, Bahnhof Südkreuz
    6:05 PMPisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)
    $1781One-way
    2 transfers
  • FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus
    3:15 PM22h35
    Berlin, Bahnhof Südkreuz
    1:50 PMPisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)
    $1801One-way
    1 transfer

Travel Information

Compare train, bus, and flight for Berlin to Pisa

Omio recommends booking the flight as it is the most popular option from Berlin to Pisa among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price take the bus with prices starting from $71. For those with little time consider booking a flight which can get you there in 2h 32m. In case you are seeking to minimise your carbon footprint the bus is your best bet as it emits only 1.0 - 2.5kg. The ticket price range depends on the travel mode: a bus costs an average of $71, and a train costs an average of $241.

Distance: 623 miles (1004 km)

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Bus
Most popular
Flight
Train
Driving

$123

Average price

Cheapest

$244

Average price

$284

Average price

$326

Average price

(fuel + tolls)

20h 1m

Average total duration

19h 31m

Onboard

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30m

Additional time*

5h 32m

Average total duration

Fastest

2h 32m

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3h 0m

Additional time*

18h 34m

Average total duration

18h 4m

Onboard

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30m

Additional time*

14h 0m

Average total duration

(door-to-door)

1.0 - 2.5kg

CO2 emissions

Lowest

3.0 - 6.0kg

CO2 emissions

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Additional time: Average total travel duration to departure point, security checks and transfers.

The cheapest way to travel from Berlin to Pisa is a bus with an average price of $123 (€101).

This is compared to other travel options from Berlin to Pisa:

A bus is $120 (€99) less than a flight for this route with tickets for a flight from Berlin to Pisa costing on average $244 (€200).

A bus is $161 (€132) less than a train for this route with tickets for a train from Berlin to Pisa costing on average $284 (€233).

The fastest way to travel from Berlin to Pisa is by flight with an average journey time of 2h 32m.

Other travel options to Pisa take longer:

Train takes on average 18h 4m.

Bus takes on average 19h 31m.

It's helpful to compare your options as there are 3 ways to travel between Berlin and Pisa including taking a train, bus, and flight.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Berlin to Pisa among Omio's users.
Take the bus. On this route, it's both cheaper and quicker than driving.

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Driving is still worth considering if you're travelling with bulky luggage, need flexibility on departure times, or plan to stop along the way.

Berlin to Pisa Bus Timetables

OperatorDeparture TimeArrival TimeDurationDeparture daysCheapest price
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
09:27AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
28h23
Departure days
Tue
Cheapest price
$170
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
09:57AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
27h53
Departure days
Tue
Cheapest price
$172
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
10:00AM
Arrival Time
11:55AM
Duration
25h55
Departure days
Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$219
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
10:04AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
27h46
Departure days
Tue
Cheapest price
$172
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
10:50AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
27h00
Departure days
Fri
Cheapest price
$188
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
11:26AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
26h24
Departure days
Wed, Sat
Cheapest price
$173
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
11:57AM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
25h53
Departure days
Wed
Cheapest price
$172
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
12:04PM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
25h46
Departure days
Wed
Cheapest price
$172
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
12:10PM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
25h40
Departure days
Fri
Cheapest price
$172
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
12:30PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
24h50
Departure days
Mon, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$142
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
01:50PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
23h30
Departure days
Everyday
Cheapest price
$143
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
02:20PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
23h00
Departure days
Mon, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$155
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
02:50PM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
23h00
Departure days
Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$148
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
03:15PM
Arrival Time
01:50PM
Duration
22h35
Departure days
Everyday
Cheapest price
$151
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
03:26PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
21h54
Departure days
Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
Cheapest price
$217
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
03:57PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
21h23
Departure days
Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$185
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
04:04PM
Arrival Time
01:20PM
Duration
21h16
Departure days
Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$185
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
05:15PM
Arrival Time
09:35PM
Duration
28h20
Departure days
Everyday
Cheapest price
$166
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
05:20PM
Arrival Time
08:45PM
Duration
27h25
Departure days
Everyday
Cheapest price
$138
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
07:26PM
Arrival Time
09:35PM
Duration
26h09
Departure days
Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$167
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
07:57PM
Arrival Time
09:35PM
Duration
25h38
Departure days
Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$166
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
08:04PM
Arrival Time
09:35PM
Duration
25h31
Departure days
Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$166
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
09:00PM
Arrival Time
09:35PM
Duration
24h35
Departure days
Mon
Cheapest price
$176
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
10:20PM
Arrival Time
08:45PM
Duration
22h25
Departure days
Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$143
Operator
FlixBus
Departure Time
11:20PM
Arrival Time
12:50AM
Duration
25h30
Departure days
Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun
Cheapest price
$151

Live departures

Berlin to Pisa bus times

The table below shows live departures for Berlin to Pisa buses for today, Wednesday, July 15. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated bus journeys.

Last updated at
ProviderDepartsDurationArrivesTransfers
Tickets
FlixTrainFlixTrain+FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus11:57 AM Berlin Hbf
25h53
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixTrainFlixTrain+FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus12:04 PM Berlin Südkreuz station
25h46
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus1:50 PM Berlin, Karolinenstraße (Alt-Tegel)
24h00
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus2:50 PM Berlin, Central Station (Invalidenstraße)
23h00
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)1 transfer
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus3:15 PM Berlin, Alexanderplatz
22h35
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)1 transfer
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus3:15 PM Berlin, Bahnhof Südkreuz
22h35
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)1 transfer
FlixTrainFlixTrain+FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus3:26 PM Berlin Spandau
25h54
5:20 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixTrainFlixTrain+FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus3:57 PM Berlin Hbf
25h23
5:20 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixTrainFlixTrain+FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus4:04 PM Berlin Südkreuz station
25h16
5:20 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus5:15 PM Berlin, Alexanderplatz
28h20
9:35 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus5:20 PM Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB)
20h30
1:50 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)1 transfer
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus5:20 PM Berlin, Bahnhof Südkreuz
24h45
6:05 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus10:20 PM Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB)
22h25
8:45 PM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus11:20 PM Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB)
25h30
12:50 AM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers
Thursday, July 16
FlixBusFlixBus · FlixBus · FlixBus10:00 AM Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB)
25h55
11:55 AM Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina)2 transfers

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Journey information

Overview: Bus from Berlin to Pisa

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Buses from Berlin to Pisa run on average 17 times per day, taking around 19h 31m. Cheap bus tickets for this journey start at $71 (€58) but you can travel from only $35 (€29) by flight.

The earliest bus runs at 01:29, the last at 23:30. The fastest bus covers the 623 miles (1004 km) distance in 20h 10m.

Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Cheapest alternative travel mode
Flight from $35 (€29)
Distance
623 miles (1004 km)
Average bus duration
19h 31m
Cheapest ticket price
$71 (€58)
Buses per day
17
Fastest bus
20h 10m
First bus
1:29 AM
Last bus
11:30 PM
Cheapest Month
Feb
Cheapest Day
Mon
High Season
Oct - Dec
Low Season
Jan - Mar
Busiest Day
Tue
Least Busy Day
Sun
Best time to book
70 days
Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Cheapest alternative travel mode
Flight from $35 (€29)

Bus providers: FlixBus from Berlin to PisaYou can travel by bus between Berlin to Pisa with FlixBus for as low as $35 (€29). When you search for schedules and tickets, Omio will show you the best journey

FlixBus

About
FlixBus is one of Europe’s leading low-cost bus companies, founded in Germany and now offering long-distance services across Europe and the United States. In addition to its extensive daytime network, FlixBus also operates overnight buses on select European routes. Standard amenities include free Wi-Fi, power outlets to charge devices, extra legroom, luggage space, and onboard toilets, with snacks and drinks available for purchase. FlixBus offers a single Standard ticket type for all routes, which includes one carry-on bag and one checked bag per passenger. Additional fees apply for extra luggage and for reserving specific seats, such as Extra Seats, Table Seats, or Panorama Seats. This combination of affordability, comfort, and wide coverage makes FlixBus a popular choice for budget-conscious travelers.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Duration
20h 10m
Cheapest Price
$71 (€58)
FlixBus frequency
16 a day
Luggage included
One carry-on bag up to 7kg (42x30x18 cm) and one checked bag up to 20kg (80x50x30 cm).
Additional luggage
Additional luggage can be purchased for a fee.
Cancellation Policy
You can cancel your ticket up to 15 minutes before departure and receive a voucher for future travel. Refund requests for delays over 120 minutes are possible.
Amenities on board the bus
Wifi
Food sold onboard
Seat reservation
Toilets
USB plugs
Accessibility
Assistance; Priority boarding; Wheelchair-accessible buses.
Bikes
Bikes are allowed for a fee; must be booked.
Pets
Small pets in carriers allowed; guide dogs travel for free.

Complete guide to Pisa

Things to do in Pisa

Discover the best of Pisa — top attractions, local food, transport tips, budget advice, and currency essentials. Plan your perfect Pisa trip today.

  • Recommended

Museo delle Sinopie

Pisa's main museum displays sculptures, paintings, manuscripts, and treasures from the cathedral complex and the city.

  • Recommended

Museo dell'Opera del Duomo

Museum of preparatory sinopias from Camposanto frescoes, offering rare insight into medieval artistic techniques and restoration.

  • Recommended

Palazzo Blu

Museum in Palazzo Lanfranchi with 19th- and 20th-century art, including works by Tuscan artists and temporary exhibitions.

Euro (€)

Moderate for Italy. Budget eats and local transit are reasonable, but hotels near the Leaning Tower and peak-season dining cost more than in smaller Tuscan towns.

Average meal costs

Budget
€8-12 for fast food or street food.
Mid-range
€20-35 per person for a meal.
Fine dining
€60+ per person for upscale restaurants.
Coffee
€1.50-3 for espresso or cappuccino.

Tipping culture

Service is often included or minimal. Round up or leave €1-2 at cafes, 5-10% for great restaurant service, and round up taxi fares.

FAQs: Bus from Berlin to Pisa

Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Berlin to Pisa by bus. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest bus, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Pisa, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.

FAQs
Cheap bus tickets from Berlin to Pisa can start from as little as $71 (€58) when you book in advance. The average bus ticket price for Berlin to Pisa is $123 (€101) ; however, prices vary depending on the time of day and class and they tend to be more expensive on the day.
The average journey time by bus from Berlin to Pisa is 20h 10m to travel the 623 miles (1004 km) long journey. Journey times can vary on weekends and holidays, so use our Journey Planner to search for a specific date.
The earliest bus from Berlin to Pisa leaves at 1:29 AM. Plan your trip with the Journey Planner from Omio.
The latest bus from Berlin to Pisa leaves at 11:30 PM.
There are 17 buses a day from Berlin to Pisa which require at least one change with FlixBus. Schedules can vary on holidays or weekends with fewer buses.
When taking a bus from Berlin to Pisa, you can count on FlixBus for the best way to get you to Pisa. You can also check all possible bus companies who offer a service between Berlin and Pisa and compare the amenities they offer before buying a bus ticket.
When departing from Berlin , you have various bus station options to start your journey from including Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB), Berlin, Bahnhof Südkreuz, Berlin, Alexanderplatz, Berlin, Karolinenstraße (Alt-Tegel), Berlin, Central Station (Invalidenstraße), Berlin, Kronprinzessinnenweg (Wannsee) . When arriving in Pisa , you can end your journey in bus stations like Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina), Pisa (Pisamover via San Giusto/Aurelia) .Passengers board the bus most frequently from Berlin, Zentraler Omnibusbahnhof (ZOB), which is located around 5 miles (9 km) away from the city centre, and they get off the bus at Pisa, Via delle Fiamme Gialle (Park Pietrasantina), located 0 away from the city centre.
A trip to Pisa from Berlin is worth doing but not as a day trip with a journey time of 20h 10m each way. Check with Omio app the best way to travel.
The cheapest month for a bus from Berlin to Pisa is February.
It's helpful to compare your options as there are 3 ways to travel between Berlin and Pisa including taking a train, bus, and flight.
Yes, the following accessibility options are available when taking the bus from Berlin to Pisa:
  • FlixBus
    • Assistance
    • Priority boarding
    • Wheelchair-accessible buses.
Yes, there are bathrooms on board the bus from Berlin to Pisa for bus company FlixBus.
Some of the most interesting sights to explore in Pisa are:
  • Leaning Tower of Pisa, an iconic freestanding bell tower known for its unintended tilt
  • Piazza dei Miracoli, a UNESCO World Heritage site featuring stunning medieval architecture
  • Pisa Cathedral, a masterpiece of Romanesque architecture with intricate marble facades
  • Baptistery of St. John, the largest baptistery in Italy renowned for its acoustics and Gothic design
  • Camposanto Monumentale, a historic cemetery with impressive frescoes and ancient Roman sarcophagi.
The best things to do in Pisa include:
  • Museo dell'Opera del Duomo, a museum housing a collection of religious art and artifacts from the cathedral complex
  • Stroll along the Arno River, offering picturesque views and a relaxing atmosphere
  • Explore Borgo Stretto, a charming street lined with shops and cafes
  • Visit the National Museum of San Matteo, showcasing medieval and Renaissance art
  • Enjoy a gelato at one of Pisa's renowned gelaterias.
Whether you can cancel your bus ticket from Berlin to Pisa depends on the bus companies:
  • FlixBus
    • You can cancel your ticket up to 15 minutes before departure and receive a voucher for future travel. Refund requests for delays over 120 minutes are possible.
Yes, bikes are allowed on board the bus with bus company FlixBus.
Tickets are often cheaper when booked early. Traveling during off-peak hours or on weekdays can help you save money. Sort results by price to quickly identify the most affordable options. Check for promotions or discounts available on our website and app.
Yes, there is food available to purchase on board the bus from Berlin to Pisa.
Yes, the following luggage options are included when booking a bus ticket from Berlin to Pisa:
  • FlixBus
    • One carry-on bag up to 7kg (42x30x18 cm) and one checked bag up to 20kg (80x50x30 cm).
Yes, the following additional luggage options are available when booking a bus ticket from Berlin to Pisa:
  • FlixBus
    • Additional luggage can be purchased for a fee.
Yes, you can bring your pet on the bus from Berlin to Pisa. The following conditions apply:
  • FlixBus
    • Small pets in carriers allowed
    • guide dogs travel for free.
You can reserve your seat on the bus from Berlin to Pisa with the following bus company: FlixBus
Yes, there are USB plugs on board the bus from Berlin to Pisa with the following bus company: FlixBus.
Yes, there is Wifi on board the bus from Berlin to Pisa with the following bus company: FlixBus.
Since both Berlin and Pisa are in the Schengen Area, a passport is not required for European Union (EU) or Schengen-associated country citizens. A national ID card is sufficient.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Berlin to Pisa among Omio's users.
Italy uses the euro (EUR) as its currency. Travelers generally find it convenient to use cards for most payments, especially in cities and larger establishments, but carrying some cash is advisable for small shops, markets, and rural areas where card acceptance may be limited.
In Pisa, travelers should be cautious of pickpocketing, especially around popular sites like the Leaning Tower and crowded transport hubs. Avoid accepting unsolicited help or offers for guided tours, as these can sometimes lead to scams. It's also advisable to use official taxi services and be wary of overly aggressive street vendors. Staying vigilant in busy areas and securing personal belongings helps ensure a safe visit.
Pack lightweight, versatile clothing suitable for the destination's climate, and use secure, lockable luggage to protect belongings. Keep essential items like travel documents, medication, and valuables in a carry-on bag for easy access. Use packing organizers or cubes to maximize space and maintain order. Lastly, include a small first aid kit and personal hygiene items for added comfort during travel.

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