- Must visit
Museo de Bellas Artes de Sevilla
Major fine arts museum in a former convent, renowned for Murillo, Zurbarán, and Sevillian Baroque painting.
Flights from Zurich to Seville depart on average 55 times per day, taking around 4h 38m. Cheap flight tickets for this journey start at €40 if you book in advance.
There are 1 flights per day. The earliest flight runs at 00:05, the last at 23:50. The fastest flight covers the 1009 miles (1625 km) distance in 2h 25m. May is the cheapest month to fly.
Distance 1009 miles (1625 km) |
Average flight duration 4h 38m |
Cheapest ticket price €40 |
Flights per day 55 |
Direct flights 1 |
Fastest flight 2h 25m |
First flight 12:05 AM |
Last flight 11:50 PM |
Cheapest Month May |
Cheapest Day Tue |
High Season Oct - Dec |
Low Season Jul - Sep |
Busiest Day Fri |
Least Busy Day Thu |
Best time to book 28 days |
Cheapest price on Sep 15
€107
Average ticket price on Sep 15
€407
Fastest journey on Sep 15
2 h 45 m
Average journey duration on Sep 15
4 h 10 m
Flights on Sep 15
125
Distance
1625 km
The best way to find a cheap flight ticket from Zurich to Seville is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.
The average ticket from Zurich to Seville will cost around €407 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only €107.
On Tue, Sep 15, we found 125 flights from Zurich to Seville, including 2 direct services.
On Tue, Sep 15 the direct flights cover the 1625 km distance in an average of 4 h 10 m but if you time it right, some flights will get you there in just 2 h 45 m .
On Tue, Sep 15 the longest flights will take 5 h 15 m and usually involve a change or two along the way, but you might be able to save a few pennies if you’re on a budget.
IB634+
IB1759
BA765+
BA2650
VY6247 · VY2218
VY6247 · VY2222
VY6247 · VY2226
LX8220
WK220
LH5749+
LH4130
IB5531 · IB5068
IB634 · IB1071Omio recommends booking the flight as it is the most popular option from Zurich to Seville among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price, take the bus, with an average ticket price of €186 For those with little time, consider booking a flight, which has an average total journey time of 6h 38m. If you are seeking to minimise your carbon footprint, the bus is your best option, with estimated CO2 emissions of 1.6 - 4.1kg. Average ticket prices depend on the travel mode: a bus costs an average of €186, while a flight costs an average of €445.
Distance: 1009 miles (1625 km)
Most popular Flight | Train | Bus | Driving |
|---|---|---|---|
€445 Average price | €186 Average price Cheapest | €491 Average price (fuel + tolls) | |
6h 38m Average total duration Fastest 4h 38m Onboard + 2h 0m Additional time* | 41h 30m Average total duration 41h 0m Onboard + 30m Additional time* | 19h 57m Average total duration (door-to-door) | |
4.9 - 9.7kg CO2 emissions | - CO2 emissions | 1.6 - 4.1kg CO2 emissions Lowest | - CO2 emissions |
Direct Options | Direct Options | Direct Options | Direct Options |
Additional time: Average total travel duration to departure point, security checks and transfers.
This is compared to other travel options from Zurich to Seville:
A bus is €259 less than a flight for this route with tickets for a flight from Zurich to Seville costing on average €445.
Other travel options to Seville take longer:
Bus takes on average 41h 0m.
The table below shows live departures for Zurich to Seville flights for today, Monday, September 14. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated flight journeys.
| Provider | Departs | Duration | Arrives | Transfers | Tickets |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
LX8220 | 1:55 PM Zurich Airport | 2h35 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 0 transfersDirect | |
WK220 | 1:55 PM Zurich Airport | 2h35 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 0 transfersDirect | |
KL1922+ KL2687 | 2:20 PM Zurich Airport | 19h15 | 9:35 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
KL1922 · KL1411+ KL2408 | 2:20 PM Zurich Airport | 9h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
AF1615 · AF1222 | 2:50 PM Zurich Airport | 8h35 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA8766+ BA7061 · BA7165 | 2:55 PM Zurich Airport | 17h40 | 8:35 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
TP921 · TP1933 · TP1102 | 3:45 PM Zurich Airport | 17h40 | 9:25 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1924+ KL2687 | 5:35 PM Zurich Airport | 16h00 | 9:35 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TP933 · TP1106 | 6:05 PM Zurich Airport | 6h20 | 12:25 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TP933 · TP1102 | 6:05 PM Zurich Airport | 15h20 | 9:25 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
UX1672 · UX5051 | 6:30 PM Zurich Airport | 16h00 | 10:30 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
UX1672 · UX5053 | 6:30 PM Zurich Airport | 26h00 | 8:30 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA8768+ BA456+ BA7163 | 7:25 PM Zurich Airport | 17h20 | 12:45 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1926+ KL2687 | 7:25 PM Zurich Airport | 14h10 | 9:35 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
VY6249 · VY2210 | 9:10 PM Zurich Airport | 11h45 | 8:55 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
VY6249 · VY2212 | 9:10 PM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 11:00 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TP8188 · TP1102 | 9:25 PM Zurich Airport | 12h00 | 9:25 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA763 · BA456+ BA7163 | 9:35 PM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 15h10 | 12:45 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA763+ BA2650 | 9:35 PM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 20h50 | 6:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA763+ BA8141 | 9:35 PM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 21h25 | 7:00 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA739 · BA456+ BA7163 | 9:45 PM Zurich Airport | 15h00 | 12:45 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
| Tuesday, September 15 | |||||
TP935 · TP1102 | 6:20 AM Zurich Airport | 27h10 | 9:30 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TP935 · TP1106 | 6:20 AM Zurich Airport | 18h35 | 12:55 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LX8220 | 6:25 AM Zurich Airport | 2h45 | 9:10 AM Seville Airport | 0 transfersDirect | |
WK220 | 6:25 AM Zurich Airport | 2h45 | 9:10 AM Seville Airport | 0 transfersDirect | |
LX2020+ 06012 | 6:55 AM Zurich Airport | 8h39 | 3:34 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
LX2020+ 06126 | 6:55 AM Zurich Airport | 8h09 | 3:04 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
LX2020+ 06014 | 6:55 AM Zurich Airport | 12h44 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
KL1916+ KL2007 · KL2075 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 9h30 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1916+ KL2003 · KL2075 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 9h30 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1409+ KL2408 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 16h25 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1503+ 06196 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 14h44 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1411+ KL2408 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 16h25 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1503+ 06014 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 12h39 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1505+ 06196 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 14h44 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
KL1916 · KL1407+ KL2408 | 7:00 AM Zurich Airport | 16h25 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA741 · BA460+ BA7164 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA741+ BA7053 · BA7164 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA741+ BA7055 · BA7164 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA741+ BA7069 · BA7164 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA741+ BA8141 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 11h45 | 7:00 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LH5749+ LH4130 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 4h50 | 12:05 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA741+ BA2650 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 11h10 | 6:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA741 · BA462+ BA7164 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 13h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
LH5749+ LH4162+ 06014 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 12h24 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
LH5749+ LH4162+ 06206 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 14h59 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
LH5749+ LH4162+ 06196 | 7:15 AM Zurich Airport | 14h29 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
IB634+ 06126 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 7h34 | 3:04 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
5257+ 06126 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 7h34 | 3:04 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
IB634+ 06012 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 8h04 | 3:34 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
IB634 · IB1071 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 5h15 | 12:45 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
IB634 · IB1075 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 13h35 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
IB634+ IB1759 | 7:30 AM Zurich Airport | 8h25 | 3:55 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TK1912 · TK1855+ VY2220 | 7:40 AM Zurich Airport | 14h25 | 10:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
TK1912 · TK1297 | 7:40 AM Zurich Airport | 27h10 | 10:50 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
AF1415 · AF1222 | 7:45 AM Zurich Airport | 15h40 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
AF1415 · AF1600+ 06206 | 7:45 AM Zurich Airport | 14h29 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
AF1415 · AF1600+ 06196 | 7:45 AM Zurich Airport | 13h59 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
AF1415 · AF1546 | 7:45 AM Zurich Airport | 8h45 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA765+ BA8141 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 10h45 | 7:00 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA765+ BA7069 · BA7164 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 12h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA765+ BA7055 · BA7164 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 12h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA765+ BA2650 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 10h10 | 6:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA765 · BA460+ BA7164 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 12h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA765 · BA462+ BA7164 | 8:15 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 12h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1918 · KL1411+ KL2408 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 14h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1918 · KL1407+ KL2408 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 14h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1918+ KL2013 · KL2408 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 14h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1918+ KL2009 · KL2408 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 14h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1918 · KL1505+ 06196 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 12h24 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
KL1918 · KL1505+ 06206 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 12h54 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
KL1918 · KL1409+ KL2408 | 9:20 AM Zurich Airport | 14h05 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
LH1185+ LH1114+ 06196 | 9:25 AM Zurich Airport | 12h19 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
IB5531 · IB5064 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 8h25 | 5:55 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
VY6247 · VY2218 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 7h15 | 4:45 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LH5763+ LH4162+ 06014 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 10h09 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
IB5531 · IB5068 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 5h15 | 2:45 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LH5763+ LH4162+ 06206 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 12h44 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
IB5531 · IB5060 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 7h15 | 4:45 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
VY6247 · VY2222 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 8h25 | 5:55 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LH5763+ LH4162+ 06196 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 12h14 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
VY6247 · VY2226 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 5h15 | 2:45 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
IB5531 · IB5062 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 12h35 | 10:05 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
VY6247 · VY2220 | 9:30 AM Zurich Airport | 12h35 | 10:05 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA8764+ BA462+ BA7164 | 10:15 AM Zurich Airport | 10h50 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA8764+ BA2650 | 10:15 AM Zurich Airport | 8h10 | 6:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA731+ BA2650 | 10:30 AM Zurich Airport | 7h55 | 6:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA731 · BA462+ BA7164 | 10:30 AM Zurich Airport | 10h35 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA731+ BA8141 | 10:30 AM Zurich Airport | 8h30 | 7:00 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TK1908 · TK1851+ VY2210 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 22h00 | 8:55 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
AF1115 · AF1600+ 06206 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 11h19 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
AF1115 · AF1222 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 12h30 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TK1908 · TK1297 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 23h55 | 10:50 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
AF1115 · AF1600+ 06196 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 10h49 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
AF1115 · AF1546 | 10:55 AM Zurich Airport | 5h35 | 4:30 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
UX1676 · UX5051 | 11:05 AM Zurich Airport | 23h25 | 10:30 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
UX1676 · UX5053 | 11:05 AM Zurich Airport | 9h25 | 8:30 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
LH1187 · LH1114+ 06196 | 11:20 AM Zurich Airport | 10h24 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
LH1187 · LH1114+ 06206 | 11:20 AM Zurich Airport | 10h54 | 10:14 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 2 transfers | |
IB628+ 06014 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 7h49 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
KL1920+ KL2013 · KL2408 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 11h35 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1920 · KL1411+ KL2408 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 11h35 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1920 · KL1409+ KL2408 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 11h35 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
KL1920+ KL2009 · KL2408 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 11h35 | 11:25 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
IB628 · IB1075 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 9h15 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
IB628+ 06196 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 9h54 | 9:44 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
5147+ 06014 | 11:50 AM Zurich Airport | 7h49 | 7:39 PM Seville-Santa Justa | 1 transfer | |
BA759+ BA7057 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759+ BA7061 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759+ BA7059 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759+ BA8141 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 7h05 | 7:00 PM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
BA759+ BA7197 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759+ BA7067 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759 · BA462+ BA7164 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 9h10 | 9:05 PM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759+ BA7065 · BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759 · BA462+ BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
BA759 · BA464+ BA7160 | 11:55 AM EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg | 19h10 | 7:05 AM Seville Airport | 2 transfers | |
TP6762 · TP1106 | 12:50 PM Zurich Airport | 12h05 | 12:55 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
TP931 · TP1106 | 1:15 PM Zurich Airport | 11h40 | 12:55 AM Seville Airport | 1 transfer | |
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Major fine arts museum in a former convent, renowned for Murillo, Zurbarán, and Sevillian Baroque painting.
Archaeological collections from prehistoric, Roman, and Iberian periods. Valuable context for Andalusia’s deep history.
Mudejar palace presenting decorative arts, ceramics, and period interiors. Rich architecture makes the building part of the appeal.
Seville’s former Jewish quarter, known for narrow lanes, patios, and intimate squares near the cathedral and Alcázar.
Traditional riverside district famous for ceramics, flamenco heritage, and lively streets with a strong local identity.
Large historic park with fountains, pavilions, and shaded walks. Ideal for a break between major monuments.
Cold tomato soup with olive oil, garlic and bread, often topped with ham and egg. A classic Sevillian staple for hot Andalusian days.
Thick chilled tomato and bread puree, usually served with jamón and hard-boiled egg. Richer than gazpacho and strongly linked to Andalusian home cooking.
Spinach stewed with chickpeas, cumin and paprika. A traditional Sevillian tapa with Moorish roots, common during Lent and in old-town taverns.
Refined tasting-menu restaurant by chef Julio Fernández. Contemporary Andalusian cuisine in an elegant, intimate fine-dining setting.
Well-known modern tapas bar serving polished Andalusian dishes and seasonal plates. Stylish but relaxed, popular for quality and consistency.
Historic bar famed for espinacas con garbanzos, cod and traditional tapas. Classic azulejos and a lively old-Seville atmosphere.
Moderate for Spain: tapas and transit are affordable, but central hotels and top restaurants cost more in peak season.
Tipping is modest: round up or leave 5-10% in restaurants for good service; small change for cafes; taxis usually rounded up.
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Seville Airport -> Plaza De Armas, Seville
Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Zurich to Seville by flight. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest flight, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Seville, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.

Most Zurich to Seville flights use the Zurich Airport to Seville Airport airport pair. Use this guide to compare Zurich and Seville airports on this route, check city-centre transport, alongside checking practicalities like airport facilities and services.
Zurich Airport is 1 km from Zurich city centre. Public transport options include:
Zurich Airport has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Shopping, Parking, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Shower, Lounge, and Lost and Found Office.
Free Wi-Fi available for 2 hours; additional time can be purchased. ATMs are located in Arrival and Departureas, offering multiple currencies.
Lost and found is available at the station.
Available at Zurich Airport: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Accessibility facilities are available at Zurich Airport: Elevators, ramps, assistance.
Seville Airport is 8 km from Seville city centre. Public transport options include:
Seville Airport has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Shopping, Parking, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Lounge, and Lost and Found Office.
Free Wi-Fi available throughout the airport. ATMs are located in the arrivals and departures areas.
Lost and found is available at the station.
Available at Seville Airport: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Accessibility facilities are available at Seville Airport: Elevators, ramps.
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