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Overview: Nantes to Nuremberg flight
France
Germany
Flights from Nantes to Nuremberg depart on average 12 times per day, taking around 3h 5m. Cheap flight tickets for this journey start at $137 (€114) but you can travel from only $56 (€46) by bus.
The earliest flight runs at 05:45, the last at 20:30. The fastest flight covers the 599 miles (964 km) distance in 3h 40m. July is the cheapest month to fly.
Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Cheapest alternative travel mode
Bus from $56 (€46)
Distance 599 miles (964 km) |
Average flight duration 3h 5m |
Cheapest ticket price $137 (€114) |
Flights per day 12 |
Fastest flight 3h 40m |
First flight 5:45 AM |
Last flight 8:30 PM |
Cheapest Month Jul |
Cheapest Day Thu |
High Season Oct - Dec |
Low Season Jan - Mar |
Busiest Day Wed |
Least Busy Day Wed |
Best time to book 42 days |
Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Cheapest alternative travel mode
Bus from $56 (€46)
The cheapest and fastest flights from Nantes to Nuremberg
Showing times and prices for Jun 26
Cheapest price
$275
Average price
$509
Fastest journey
5 h 5 m
Average duration
7 h 2 m
Flights per day
18
Distance
964 km
Cheap tickets
The best way to find a cheap flight ticket from Nantes to Nuremberg is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.
The average ticket from Nantes to Nuremberg will cost around $509 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $275.
Fast flights
It's difficult to get from Nantes to Nuremberg without transferring at least once.
ICE 727+
KL1819+
KL14186:20 AM14h38Nantes Atlantique Airport8:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$2751One-way2 transfers
KL1817+ICE 727+KL14186:20 AM14h38Nantes Atlantique Airport8:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$2751One-way2 transfers- ICE 723+KL1418+KL18196:20 AM12h38Nantes Atlantique Airport6:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$2951One-way2 transfers
- KL1817+ICE 625+KL14186:20 AM8h38Nantes Atlantique Airport2:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$3201One-way2 transfers
AF7509+ICE 727+AF12186:05 AM14h53Nantes Atlantique Airport8:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$3331One-way2 transfers
LH1055 · LH14612:45 PM5h05Nantes Atlantique Airport5:50 PMNuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport$6261One-way1 transfer- LH1055+ICE 72312:45 PM6h13Nantes Atlantique Airport6:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$5491One-way1 transfer
- LH1055+ICE 72512:45 PM7h13Nantes Atlantique Airport7:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$5491One-way1 transfer
- LH1055+ICE 72712:45 PM8h13Nantes Atlantique Airport8:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$5301One-way1 transfer
- ICE 723+AF1218 · AF750110:30 AM8h28Nantes Atlantique Airport6:58 PMNuremberg Hbf$8891One-way2 transfers
Travel Information
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Omio recommends booking the flight as it is the most popular option from Nantes to Nuremberg among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price take the bus with prices starting from $56. For those with little time consider booking a flight which can get you there in 3h 5m. The ticket price range depends on the travel mode: a bus costs an average of $56, and a train costs an average of $340.
Distance: 599 miles (964 km)
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Most popular Flight | Bus | Train | Driving |
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$267 Average price | $93 Average price Cheapest | $405 Average price | $314 Average price (fuel + tolls) |
6h 5m Average total duration Fastest 3h 5m Onboard + 3h 0m Additional time* | 15h 48m Average total duration 15h 18m Onboard + 30m Additional time* | 15h 35m Average total duration 15h 5m Onboard + 30m Additional time* | 11h 8m Average total duration (door-to-door) |
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The cheapest way to travel from Nantes to Nuremberg is a bus with an average price of $93 (€77).
This is compared to other travel options from Nantes to Nuremberg:
A bus is $174 (€144) less than a flight for this route with tickets for a flight from Nantes to Nuremberg costing on average $267 (€221).
A bus is $312 (€258) less than a train for this route with tickets for a train from Nantes to Nuremberg costing on average $405 (€335).
The fastest way to travel from Nantes to Nuremberg is by flight with an average journey time of 3h 5m.
Other travel options to Nuremberg take longer:
Train takes on average 15h 5m.
Bus takes on average 15h 18m.
It's helpful to compare your options as there are 3 ways to travel between Nantes and Nuremberg including taking a train, bus, and flight.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Nantes to Nuremberg among Omio's users.
Live departures
Nantes to Nuremberg flight times
The table below shows live departures for Nantes to Nuremberg flights for today, Thursday, June 25. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated flight journeys.
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| Provider | Departs | Duration | Arrives | Transfers | Tickets |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5:15 PM Nantes | 3h40 | 8:55 PM Nuremberg | 0 transfersDirect | |
| 7:00 PM Nantes | 13h20 | 8:20 AM Nuremberg | 0 transfersDirect | |
| Friday, June 26 | |||||
| AF7509+ICE 727+AF1218 | 6:05 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 14h53 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| AF7509+ICE 725+AF1218 | 6:05 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 13h53 | 7:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| AF7509+ICE 723+AF1218 | 6:05 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 12h53 | 6:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| KL1817+ICE 727+KL1418 | 6:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 14h38 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| KL1817+ICE 625+KL1418 | 6:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 8h38 | 2:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 723+KL1418+KL1819 | 6:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 12h38 | 6:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 727+KL1819+KL1418 | 6:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 14h38 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 727+AF9451 · AF1218 | 7:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 13h38 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 725+AF1218 · AF9451 | 7:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 12h38 | 7:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 723+AF1218 · AF9451 | 7:20 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 11h38 | 6:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
 IB1220+ FR 2158+ IB1663 | 9:40 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 12h15 | 9:55 PM Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 727+AF1218 · AF7501 | 10:30 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 10h28 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 725+AF1218 · AF7501 | 10:30 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 9h28 | 7:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| ICE 723+AF7501 · AF1218 | 10:30 AM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 8h28 | 6:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 2 transfers | |
| LH1055+ICE 725 | 12:45 PM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 7h13 | 7:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 1 transfer | |
| LH1055+ICE 727 | 12:45 PM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 8h13 | 8:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 1 transfer | |
| LH1055 · LH146 | 12:45 PM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 5h05 | 5:50 PM Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport | 1 transfer | |
| LH1055+ICE 723 | 12:45 PM Nantes Atlantique Airport | 6h13 | 6:58 PM Nuremberg Hbf | 1 transfer | |
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Airlines: Lufthansa Cityline, Vueling from Nantes to NurembergFind the best flights between Nantes to Nuremberg with Omio's travel partners Lufthansa Cityline, Vueling from $56 (€46). We can find you the best deals, schedules and tickets when comparing and booking the best trip.
Lufthansa Cityline
About
Lufthansa CityLine is a German regional airline and a wholly-owned subsidiary of Deutsche Lufthansa AG, operating as part of the Lufthansa Regional concept. Headquartered at Munich Airport, with hubs also at Frankfurt Airport, it operates a dense domestic and European network on behalf of its parent company. The airline primarily uses regional jets like the Bombardier CRJ900, along with Airbus A319s and A320neos, to connect smaller European cities to Lufthansa's major hubs. Lufthansa CityLine is known for its reliability in providing feeder traffic to Frankfurt and Munich.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Lufthansa Cityline frequency
3 a day
Luggage included
1 carry-on bag (8kg max) and 1 personal item
Additional luggage
Additional checked baggage can be purchased, up to 23kg per piece
Cancellation Policy
Cancellation possible up to 24h before departure, refund depends on fare type and timing of cancellation
Pregnant on board
Up to 36 weeks for single pregnancies, 32 weeks for multiple pregnancies. Medical certificate required after 28th week
Unaccompagned minor
Available for children aged 5-11, must be booked at least 48h in advance. Service fee applies
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
Food sold onboard
USB plugs
Accessibility
Wheelchair assistance available, must be requested at least 48h before departure
Pets
Small pets in cabin (max 8kg including carrier), must be booked in advance
Entertaiment on board
Vueling
About
Vueling is a Spanish low-cost airline and one of the largest carriers in Europe, offering affordable flights across Spain, Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. Operating mainly from its hub in Barcelona, Vueling provides a modern fleet with flexible fare options to suit different types of travelers. Passengers can choose from basic low-cost tickets to fares that include extras such as seat selection, checked baggage, and priority boarding. With WiFi and onboard services available on many routes, Vueling is a popular choice for budget-conscious travelers.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Duration
6h 20m
Cheapest Price
$199 (€164)
Vueling frequency
1 a day
Luggage included
1 cabin bag (40x20x30 cm)
Additional luggage
Extra cabin bag (55x40x20 cm) and checked baggage available for purchase
Cancellation Policy
Free cancellation within 24h of booking if flight is more than 7 days away. After that, cancellation fees apply based on fare type
Pregnant on board
Pregnant women can fly up to week 36 (32 for multiple pregnancies). Medical certificate required after week 28
Unaccompagned minor
Available for children aged 5-11, must be booked at least 48h in advance. Service fee applies
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
USB plugs
Accessibility
Assistance available for passengers with reduced mobility, must be requested at least 48h before departure
Pets
Small pets in cabin allowed, max 8kg including carrier. Must be booked in advance
Entertaiment on board
Complete guide to Nuremberg
Things to do in Nuremberg
Discover the best of Nuremberg — top attractions, local food, transport tips, budget advice, and currency essentials. Plan your perfect Nuremberg trip today.
- Must visit
Albrecht Dürer House
The preserved former home and workshop of Albrecht Dürer, offering insight into the life and work of Nuremberg’s most famous Renaissance artist.
- Must visit
Memorium Nuremberg Trials
An important documentation center at the Palace of Justice covering the Nuremberg Trials and their lasting impact on international law.
- Must visit
Hauptmarkt
Nuremberg’s central market square, surrounded by major landmarks and especially lively during festivals and the famous Christmas market season.
- Must visit
Weissgerbergasse
A beautifully preserved old street lined with colorful timber-framed houses, often highlighted in photography and social media posts.
- Recommended
Tiergärtnertorplatz
A charming square below the castle near the Albrecht Dürer House, popular for historic views and a classic old-town atmosphere.
- Gluten-free
Nürnberger Rostbratwürste
Small marjoram-seasoned pork sausages traditionally grilled over beechwood and famously protected as a regional specialty of Nuremberg.
Drei im Weggla
Three Nürnberger sausages served in a bread roll, a classic local street-food snack found across the city.
Schäufele
Franconian roast pork shoulder with crispy crackling, usually served with potato dumplings and rich gravy; a hearty regional favorite.
Albrecht-Dürer-Stube
Longstanding traditional restaurant known for refined Franconian cuisine, historic interiors, and a more intimate, upscale atmosphere.
Hausbrauerei Altstadthof
Established old-town brewhouse serving Franconian dishes and house-brewed beer in a traditional, atmospheric setting near the city walls.
Bratwursthäusle bei St. Sebald
Historic, well-known restaurant by St. Sebald specializing in authentic Nürnberger Rostbratwürste grilled over charcoal in a classic old-town setting.
Euro
Moderate by German standards. Public transport and casual food are reasonable, while hotels and fine dining cost more during peak periods and major fairs.
Average meal costs
- Budget
- EUR 8-15 for kebab, bakery, or simple lunch.
- Mid-range
- EUR 18-35 per person at a casual restaurant.
- Fine dining
- EUR 60-120 per person at upscale restaurants.
- Coffee
- EUR 3-5 for a cappuccino or latte.
Tipping culture
Service is usually included. Round up in cafés and taxis. In restaurants, tip about 5-10% for good service and hand it directly when paying.
VGN Fahrplan & Tickets
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Prices
- Single ticket
- EUR 3.90
- Day pass
- EUR 9.70
To the city center
Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport, Nuremberg -> Nuremberg Main Station, Nuremberg
- Distance
- 5 km
- Travel time
- 13 min
- Validate mobile tickets in the official app before boarding; ticket inspections are common across U-Bahn, tram and bus services.
- Card payment is generally available in the VGN app and at many ticket machines, but not always directly on buses or trams, so buy your ticket before boarding when possible.
FAQs: Nantes to Nuremberg Flight
Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Nantes to Nuremberg by flight. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest flight, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Nuremberg, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.
Cheap plane tickets from Nantes to Nuremberg can start from as little as $137 (€114) when you book in advance. The average flight ticket price for Nantes to Nuremberg is $267 (€221) ; however, prices vary depending on the time of day and class and they tend to be more expensive on the day.
The average journey time by plane from Nantes to Nuremberg is 3h 40m to travel the 599 miles (964 km) long route. Journey times can vary on weekends and holidays, so use our Journey Planner to search for a specific date.
The earliest flight from Nantes to Nuremberg leaves at 5:45 AM. Plan your trip with the Journey Planner from Omio.
The latest flight from Nantes to Nuremberg leaves at 8:30 PM.
There are 12 flights a day from Nantes to Nuremberg which require at least one change with Lufthansa Cityline, Vueling. Schedules can vary on holidays or weekends with fewer flights.
When taking a flight from Nantes to Nuremberg, you can count on Lufthansa Cityline, Vueling for the best way to get you to Nuremberg. You can also check all possible airlines who offer a service between Nantes and Nuremberg and compare the amenities they offer before buying a plane ticket.
Flights from Nantes to Nuremberg generally leave from Nantes Atlantique Airport and arrive in Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport.Nantes Atlantique Airport is 1 miles (2 km) away from Nantes city centre and Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport is 3 miles (5 km) from Nuremberg city centre.
The cheapest month for a flight from Nantes to Nuremberg is July.
It's helpful to compare your options as there are 3 ways to travel between Nantes and Nuremberg including taking a train, bus, and flight.
Since both Nantes and Nuremberg are in the Schengen Area, a passport is not required for European Union (EU) or Schengen-associated country citizens. A national ID card is sufficient.
There is no time difference between Nantes and Nuremberg.
The best events to attend in Nuremberg include:
- Christkindlesmarkt, a famous Christmas market held in the heart of Nuremberg featuring handcrafted goods and festive treats
- Nuremberg International Toy Fair, the world's largest toy fair showcasing the latest trends and innovations in the toy industry
- Nuremberg Old Town Festival, a vibrant celebration of local culture with music, food, and traditional crafts.
Some of the most interesting sights to explore in Nuremberg are:
- Nuremberg Castle, a historic fortress offering panoramic views of the city and insights into medieval architecture
- St. Lorenz Church, a stunning Gothic church known for its impressive stained glass windows and intricate sculptures
- Documentation Center Nazi Party Rally Grounds, a museum providing an in-depth look at the history of the Nazi regime and its impact on Nuremberg
- Albrecht Dürer’s House, the former home and workshop of the famous Renaissance artist, now a museum showcasing his life and works
- Nuremberg Zoo, a large zoological garden featuring diverse animal species and engaging exhibits.
The best holidays to experience in Nuremberg include:
- Easter, mild spring weather and traditional religious processions
- Labor Day, vibrant local festivities and a lively atmosphere
- German Unity Day, national pride celebrations with parades and cultural events.
The best things to do in Nuremberg include:
- Nuremberg Christmas Market, one of the oldest and most famous Christmas markets in Germany, known for its festive atmosphere and traditional crafts
- Germanisches Nationalmuseum, the largest museum of cultural history in the German-speaking region, featuring an extensive collection of artifacts
- Explore the charming Old Town, with its cobblestone streets and half-timbered houses, perfect for a leisurely stroll
- Visit the Toy Museum, which offers a fascinating look at the history of toys and playthings from different eras
- Enjoy a culinary tour of Nuremberg, sampling local specialties such as Nuremberg sausages and gingerbread.
The best season to visit Nuremberg is Spring or Fall. The best weather to explore Nuremberg is during May-June or September-October.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Nantes to Nuremberg among Omio's users.
For international flights we recommend to arrive 2.5 to 3 hours before departure. Please check the website of your departure airport if in doubt. Some airports may offer booking time slots for security checks or offer additional information on when to get there based on time of day.
Most airlines permit carry-on bags that fit within specific dimensions (e.g., 22 x 14 x 9 inches or 56 x 36 x 23 cm), including handles and wheels. Bags must fit in the overhead bin or under the seat in front of you.
Many airlines impose weight limits, commonly ranging between 7 kg (15 lbs) and 12 kg (26 lbs). Typically, passengers are allowed one carry-on bag and one personal item (for example a purse, laptop bag, or backpack). Personal items must fit under the seat in front of you. Budget Airlines (like Ryanair or Wizz Air) have stricter size and weight limits, often requiring fees for larger carry-ons. Full-Service Airlines have more lenient policies, sometimes including more spacious dimensions or higher weight limits depending on your ticket class.
The list of items prohibited on an airplane varies by country and airline, but in general, the following items are not allowed in carry-on or checked baggage: Weapons and self-defence items, sharp objects, flammable materials, explosives, toxic substances, or liquids over 100ml (except for medications and baby essentials). In checked baggage, firearms (without authorization), explosives, large lithium batteries, and hazardous chemicals are prohibited. Electronic cigarettes must be in carry-on bags, while alcohol and dry ice have restrictions. Always check with your airline for specific regulations.
Germany uses the euro (€) as its currency. Travelers generally find it convenient to use cards, especially contactless payments, in cities and larger establishments. However, cash is still widely accepted and sometimes preferred in smaller shops, markets, and rural areas. Carrying some cash is recommended for flexibility.
In Nuremberg, travelers should be cautious of pickpocketing, especially in crowded areas like the main train station and popular tourist spots. Scam attempts involving fake charity collectors or overly persistent street vendors can occur but are less common. It is advisable to stay alert in busy markets and public transport to ensure personal belongings remain secure. Overall, Nuremberg is considered a safe city, but standard travel vigilance is recommended.
Pack lightweight, versatile clothing suitable for the destination's climate, and use secure, lockable luggage to protect belongings. Keep essential items like travel documents, medication, and valuables in a carry-on bag for easy access. Use packing organizers or cubes to maximize space and maintain order. Lastly, include a small first aid kit and personal hygiene items for added comfort during travel.
popular airports
Popular airports from Nantes to Nuremberg
Nantes
Nuremberg
The major airport for departures in Nantes is Nantes Atlantique Airport. Find all the information you need to know about services, amenities and connections at Nantes Atlantique Airport for your trip from Nantes to Nuremberg.
Amenities at airport
Wifi
Shopping
Parking
ATM
Taxis
Accessibility
WC
Shower
Lounge
Lost and Found Officeinformation
Distance to city center
2 km
Car connection
D723, Exit Périphérique SudWifi
- Free Wi-Fi available throughout the airport
Shopping
- Shops available, located in the main terminal, including Relay and duty-free shops
Parking
- Parking available near the terminal, approximately 2€ per hour
Taxis
- Available outside the terminal
Accessibility
- Elevators, ramps
WC
- Available throughout the airport
Shower
- Yes
Lounge
- Lounge available, including the Lounge Atlantique
Lost and Found Office
- Located in the terminal
Public transit options for Nantes Atlantique Airport
- Bus: 48, 98
- Tram: Line 3
- Train: NA
The major airport for arrivals in Nuremberg is Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport. Find all the information you need to know about services, amenities and connections at Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport for your journey to Nuremberg from Nantes.
Amenities at airport
WifiShoppingParkingATMTaxisAccessibilityWCShowerLoungeLost and Found Officeinformation
Distance to city center
5 kmCar connection
A3, exit 85Wifi
- Free Wi-Fi available throughout the airport
Shopping
- Shops are available, including Duty-Free and Relay, located in the main terminal
Parking
- Parking available near the terminal, approximately 3€ per hour
Taxis
- Available outside the terminal
Accessibility
- Elevators, ramps
WC
- Available throughout the airport
Shower
- Yes
Lounge
- Lounge access available, including the Dürer Lounge
Lost and Found Office
- Located in the main terminal, near the information desk
Public transit options for Nuremberg Albrecht Dürer Airport
- Bus: 30, 33
- Metro: U2
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