- Must visit
Musée d'Art et d'Archéologie de Valence
Valence’s main art and archaeology museum in the old bishopric. It combines regional history, fine arts, and an excellent panoramic terrace.
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The cheapest and fastest trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence
Showing times, prices and bookable tickets for Nov 04
- Cheapest price on Nov 04
- $42
- Average ticket price on Nov 04
- $51
- Fastest journey on Nov 04
- 1 h 33 m
- Average journey duration on Nov 04
- 1 h 51 m
- Trains on Nov 04
- 12
- Distance
- 68 km
Cheap tickets
The best way to find a cheap train ticket from Saint-Étienne to Valence is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.
The average ticket from Saint-Étienne to Valence will cost around $51 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $42.
Fast trains
It's difficult to get from Saint-Étienne to Valence without transferring at least once.
886869 · 1770311:20 AM 2h13 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 1:33 PM Valence Ville $42 1 One-way 1 transfer- 886823 · 886179
12:20 PM 2h08 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 2:28 PM Valence Ville $42 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886871 · 886181
2:20 PM 2h08 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 4:28 PM Valence Ville $42 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886827 · 886121
1:20 PM 2h07 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 3:27 PM Valence Ville $42 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886837 · 886187
3:20 PM 2h08 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 5:28 PM Valence Ville $42 1 One-way 1 transfer
6694 · 987712:12 PM 1h33 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 1:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud $72 1 One-way 1 transfer- 886825+9826
12:50 PM 1h55 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 2:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud $59 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886839+9879
3:50 PM 1h55 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 5:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud $71 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886817+9812
10:50 AM 1h55 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 12:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud $59 1 One-way 1 transfer - 886865+9810
9:20 AM 1h55 St-Étienne Châteaucreux 11:15 AM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud $59 1 One-way 1 transfer
Journey information
Overview: Train from Saint-Étienne to Valence
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Trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence run on average 12 times per day, taking around 1h 40m. Cheap train tickets for this journey start at $24 but you can travel from only $11 by bus.
The earliest train runs at 05:31, the last at 22:00. The fastest train covers the 42 miles (68 km) distance in 1h 15m.
Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
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Cheapest alternative travel mode
Bus from $11
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Journey facts
- Distance42 miles (68 km)
- Average train duration1h 40m
- Cheapest ticket price$24
- Trains per day12
- Fastest train1h 15m
- First train5:31 AM
- Last train10:00 PM
- Cheapest MonthFeb
- Cheapest DayTue
- High SeasonJul - Sep
- Low SeasonApr - Jun
- Busiest DayFri
- Least Busy DayTue
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Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Cheapest alternative travel mode
Bus from $11
Frequently asked questions about your Saint-Étienne to Valence trip
Use these quick route answers to check fares, travel time, departure options, and direct services before booking from Saint-Étienne to Valence.
Train ticket prices from Saint-Étienne to Valence can vary. The cheapest ticket starts at $24, while the average price is around $47.
The train from Saint-Étienne to Valence takes 1h 15m and runs 12 per day.
The distance by train from Saint-Étienne to Valence is 42 miles (68 km).
The first train from Saint-Étienne to Valence leaves at 5:31 AM.
The last train from Saint-Étienne to Valence leaves at 10:00 PM.
There is no direct train service currently available from Saint-Étienne to Valence.
Live departures
Saint-Étienne to Valence train times
The table below shows live departures for Saint-Étienne to Valence trains for today, Tuesday, November 3. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated train journeys.
Last updated at
| Provider | Departs | Duration | Arrives | Transfers | Tickets |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 886863+5300 | On time 8:20 AM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h55 | 10:15 AM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
| 886865+9810 | On time 9:20 AM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h55 | 11:15 AM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
| 886867 · 886115 | 10:20 AM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h08 | 12:28 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 886817+9812 | 10:50 AM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h55 | 12:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
| 886869 · 17703 | 11:20 AM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h13 | 1:33 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 6694 · 9877 | 12:12 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h33 | 1:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
| 886823 · 886179 | 12:20 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h08 | 2:28 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 886825+9826 | 12:50 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h55 | 2:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
| 886827 · 886121 | 1:20 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h07 | 3:27 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 886871 · 886181 | 2:20 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h08 | 4:28 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 886837 · 886187 | 3:20 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 2h08 | 5:28 PM Valence Ville | 1 transfer | |
| 886839+9879 | 3:50 PM St-Étienne Châteaucreux | 1h55 | 5:45 PM Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud | 1 transfer | |
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Train companies
Train companies from Saint-Étienne to Valence
Trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence with TER, SNCF | TGV INOUI, and SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187. High-speed trains available on this route with SNCF | TGV INOUI. Regional trains available on this route with TER and SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187. Use the details below to compare onboard facilities.
SNCF | TGV INOUI
About
SNCF's TGV INOUI is a premium high-speed train service operating across France and to other European cities. Launched in 2017, it aims to provide an enhanced travel experience with greater comfort, connectivity, and services compared to traditional TGV services. TGV INOUI trains offer features like adjustable seats, electrical outlets, fold-down tables, and dedicated luggage spaces. Passengers can enjoy onboard Wi-Fi and access to the TGV INOUI portal for entertainment and journey information. The service also includes a "Bistro TGV INOUI" for dining, with options for online ordering. SNCF is also introducing a new generation of TGV INOUI trains from 2026, which will be more modular, energy-efficient, and 97% recyclable.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average SNCF | TGV INOUI Duration
1h 15m
Cheapest SNCF | TGV INOUI Price
$71
SNCF | TGV INOUI frequency
1 a day
Luggage included
1 hand luggage + 2 pieces of luggage free of charge
Luggage storage
Overhead racks, end of carriages, between seats
Cancellation Policy
Refund conditions depend on ticket type
Refund
Full refund if train canceled
Amenities on board the train
Wifi
Food sold onboard
Restaurant car (not all trains), at-seat service in 1st class, snack bar/cafe
Seat reservation
Second class: Optional, additional fee. First class: Included in ticket price
Toilets
USB plugs
Accessibility
Wheelchair spaces, accessible toilets, boarding assistance available
Pets
Small pets in carriers: Free. Large dogs: Paid ticket required. Guide dogs: Free
Quiet zone
SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187
About
SNCF TER (Transport Express Régional) is the regional train service operated by France's national railway company, SNCF. It provides low-cost travel within France's regions, connecting towns and areas not served by high-speed trains. Each French region independently manages its own TER network, offering various ticket types, including discount cards and special fares. TER trains are used by over 800,000 passengers daily and are a popular choice for both commuters and tourists exploring France's diverse landscapes.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187 Duration
1h 20m
Cheapest SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187 Price
$31
SNCF TER | Operated by SNCF Voyageurs 1187 frequency
11 a day
Luggage included
One piece of hand luggage and one suitcase included
Luggage storage
Overhead racks, under seats, and designated areas at train ends
Cancellation Policy
Refund policies vary by ticket type
Refund
Full refund provided for canceled trains
Amenities on board the train
Wifi
Food sold onboard
Snack bar or food trolley service on some routes, vending machines available
Seat reservation
Optional seat reservation for additional fee, included in some first-class tickets
Toilets
USB plugs
Accessibility
Wheelchair spaces, accessible toilets, ramps for boarding, assistance service available
Pets
Small pets in carriers travel free, larger dogs require paid ticket, guide dogs travel free
Quiet zone
TER
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average TER Duration
1h 19m
Cheapest TER Price
$24
TER frequency
11 a day
Companies, tickets, and onboard amenities between Saint-Étienne and Valence
Review the details behind your booking, from operators and ticket rules to luggage, onboard amenities, accessibility, and route-specific travel policies.
Yes, there is a high-speed train from Saint-Étienne to Valence.
Unfortunately, there is no night train available from Saint-Étienne to Valence.
Items not allowed on trains typically include hazardous materials such as explosives, flammable liquids, corrosive substances, and illegal drugs. Additionally, large or bulky items that may obstruct aisles or emergency exits, as well as pets without proper carriers, may be restricted. Specific prohibited items can vary by train operator and region, so please check the rules for your particular journey.
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Things to do in Valence
Discover the best of Valence — top attractions, local food, transport tips, budget advice, and currency essentials. Plan your perfect Valence trip today.
- Recommended
Centre du Patrimoine Arménien
Center dedicated to Armenia’s history, culture, and memory. It reflects the strong Armenian heritage present in Valence and the wider region.
La Fabrique
Contemporary art venue presenting rotating exhibitions. It is valued for accessible programming and a fresh local perspective on visual culture.
- Must visit
Parc Jouvet
Valence’s signature hilltop park with fountains, statues, and sweeping Rhône views. It is the city’s essential promenade and viewpoint.
- Must visit
Vieux Valence
Historic center area of narrow lanes, heritage facades, and small plazas. It is best explored on foot for architecture and local character.
- Recommended
Place des Ormeaux
Central square beside major heritage sites. It is a natural starting point for exploring old Valence and taking in the historic atmosphere.
- Vegetarian
Ravioles du Dauphiné
Ravioles du Dauphiné are tiny cheese-filled pasta squares, usually served gratinéed. They are a signature specialty of the Drôme and nearby Valence area.
- Gluten-free
Caillette
Caillette is a rustic Drôme pork pâté with herbs and greens, baked in caul fat. It is a beloved local charcuterie found in markets and traditional eateries.
- Vegetarian
Suisse de Valence
Suisse de Valence is an orange blossom shortbread biscuit shaped like a little figure. It is a classic Valence pastry linked to Easter and local baking traditions.
Maison Pic
Michelin-starred destination by Anne-Sophie Pic, known for refined creative cuisine and elegant service in a luxurious setting.
Brasserie Le Continental
Historic brasserie near the station serving classic French and Lyonnais dishes in a grand Belle Époque dining room.
Le Bistrot des Clercs
Well-known traditional restaurant focused on regional cuisine, including ravioles and local produce, in a warm and relaxed atmosphere.
Euro (€)
Moderate for France. Hotels and dining are usually cheaper than Paris, while local transit and casual meals stay fairly affordable for visitors.
Average meal costs
- Budget
- €8-15 for fast food or a simple lunch.
- Mid-range
- €18-35 per person for a restaurant meal.
- Fine dining
- €50+ per person for upscale dining.
- Coffee
- €2-4 for coffee or cappuccino.
Tipping culture
Service is usually included. Round up or leave 5-10% for great restaurant service. Small change is fine for cafes and taxis, but not required.
Plan your visit to Valence
Get destination-focused answers for the end of your trip, including what to do, when to go, practical entry details, and tips for making the most of your time in Valence.
The train journey from Saint-Étienne to Valence offers scenic views, including picturesque landscapes of the Rhône-Alpes region, rolling hills, and charming villages along the route.
Popular day trips by train from Valence include Lyon, Marseille, Montpellier, Grenoble, Montélimar.
France uses the euro (EUR) as its currency. Travelers generally find it convenient to use cards for most transactions, especially in cities and larger establishments, but carrying some cash is advisable for small vendors, markets, and rural areas where card acceptance may be limited.
In Valence, travelers should be cautious of pickpocketing, especially in crowded areas and on public transportation. Common scams include distraction techniques near popular tourist spots and markets. It is advisable to keep belongings secure and remain vigilant when approached by strangers offering unsolicited help or deals.
Pack lightweight, versatile clothing suitable for the destination's climate, and use secure, lockable luggage to protect belongings. Keep essential items like travel documents, medication, and valuables in a carry-on bag for easy access. Use packing organizers or cubes to maximize space and maintain order. Lastly, include a small first aid kit and personal hygiene items for added comfort during travel.
FAQs: Trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence
Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Saint-Étienne to Valence by train. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest train, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Valence, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.
Yes, you can take the train from Saint-Étienne to Valence.
popular train stations
Popular train stations from Saint-Étienne to Valence
Most Saint-Étienne to Valence trains use the St-Étienne Châteaucreux to Valence Ville station pair, with some services arriving at Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud. Use this guide to compare Saint-Étienne and Valence train stations on this route, check city-centre transport, alongside checking practicalities like train station facilities and services.
Departure train stations in Saint-Étienne
Arrival train stations in Valence
Which Saint-Étienne station do trains to Valence leave from?
Trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence leave from St-Étienne Châteaucreux. The station is 0 miles (1 km) from Saint-Étienne city centre at 2 Esplanade de France, 42000 Saint-Étienne, France.
St-Étienne Châteaucreux2 Esplanade de France, 42000 Saint-Étienne, France
City-centre transport
Getting to St-Étienne Châteaucreux from Saint-Étienne city centre
St-Étienne Châteaucreux is 1 km from Saint-Étienne city centre. Public transport options include:
TramT2, T3 · 5m · $3 · every ~33 min
T3 · 8m · $3 · every ~18 min
St-Étienne Châteaucreux train station facilities and services
St-Étienne Châteaucreux has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Lockers, Parking, Dining, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Lost and Found Office, Ticket Office, Bike Parking, Bike Rental, Car Rental, Information Desk, and Luggage Carts.
Food and drink
Food options include: Le Bistrot de Paris, La Loco
Wi-Fi and ATMs
Free. ATMs are available in the train station.
Tickets and information
Ticket office support is available at St-Étienne Châteaucreux. Information desks are located in the main hall.
Luggage and lost property
Luggage storage is available at St-Étienne Châteaucreux. Lost and found is available at the station.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at St-Étienne Châteaucreux: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at St-Étienne Châteaucreux: Bike Parking, Bike Rental, Car Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at St-Étienne Châteaucreux: Elevators, ramps.
Shops, hotels and contact
Nearby hotels include ibis Styles Saint Étienne Gare Châteaucreux, Novotel Saint-Étienne Centre Gare.
Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux42000 Saint-Étienne, France
City-centre transport
Getting to Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux from Saint-Étienne city centre
Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux is 1 km from Saint-Étienne city centre. Check local transport options before travel.
Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux train station facilities and services
Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux has practical services for this route, including Dining, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Bike Parking, Bike Rental, and Car Rental.
Food and drink
Food and drink options are available at Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux.
Wi-Fi and ATMs
ATMs are available at Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux: Taxis, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux: Bike Parking, Bike Rental, Car Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at Saint-Étienne, Gare de Saint-Étienne Châteaucreux.
Saint-Étienne BellevueRue de la Montat, 42100 Saint-Étienne, France
City-centre transport
Getting to Saint-Étienne Bellevue from Saint-Étienne city centre
Saint-Étienne Bellevue is 1 km from Saint-Étienne city centre. Public transport options include:
TrainTer · 3m · $2 · every ~3 min
M7 · 16m · $3 · every ~16 min
BusL16 · 17m · $4
M4 · 29m · $4 · every ~15 min
TramT1, T3 · 9m · $3 · every ~45 min
Saint-Étienne Bellevue train station facilities and services
Saint-Étienne Bellevue has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Lockers, Parking, Dining, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Lost and Found Office, Ticket Office, Bike Parking, Bike Rental, Information Desk, and Luggage Carts.
Food and drink
Food options include: Le Bistrot de Paris, La Table de l'Atelier
Wi-Fi and ATMs
Free.
Tickets and information
Ticket office support is available at Saint-Étienne Bellevue. Information desks are located in the main hall.
Luggage and lost property
Luggage storage is available at Saint-Étienne Bellevue. Lost and found is available at the station.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at Saint-Étienne Bellevue: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at Saint-Étienne Bellevue: Bike Parking, Bike Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at Saint-Étienne Bellevue: Ramps, restrooms.
Shops, hotels and contact
Nearby hotels include Hotel Ibis Saint-Étienne Gare Châteaucreux, Hotel Terminus du Forez.
Which Valence station do trains from Saint-Étienne arrive at?
Trains from Saint-Étienne to Valence most often arrive at Valence Ville. Some services arrive at Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud, so check your ticket before travel to confirm your Valence arrival station.
Valence VillePlace de la Gare, 26000 Valence, France+33 4 75 44 44 44
City-centre transport
Getting to Valence Ville from Valence city centre
BusSeveral lines available
TramwayLine T1
Regional trains
Valence Ville train station facilities and services
Valence Ville has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Lockers, Parking, Dining, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Lost and Found Office, Ticket Office, Bike Parking, Car Rental, Information Desk, and Luggage Carts.
Food and drink
Food options include: Le Café Victor Hugo, La Table de Jeanne
Wi-Fi and ATMs
Free. ATMs are available in the train station.
Tickets and information
Ticket office support is available at Valence Ville. Information desks are located in the main hall.
Luggage and lost property
Luggage storage is available at Valence Ville. Lost and found is available at the station.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at Valence Ville: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at Valence Ville: Bike Parking, Car Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at Valence Ville: Elevators, ramps.
Shops, hotels and contact
Nearby hotels include Hotel de France, Ibis Valence Sud, Atrium Hotel.
Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes SudBP 19952 ALIXAN, 26958 Valence, France+33 184943635
City-centre transport
Getting to Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud from Valence city centre
Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud is 4 km from Valence city centre. Public transport options include:
TrainTer · 7m · $3 · every ~3 min
BusIc · 16m · $3 · every ~4 min
Ic · 17m · $4 · every ~4 min
Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud train station facilities and services
Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Parking, Dining, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Ticket Office, Bike Parking, Car Rental, and Information Desk.
Food and drink
Food options include: PAUL, Selecta
Wi-Fi and ATMs
Free Wi-Fi in the station. ATMs are located near the restrooms.
Tickets and information
The ticket office is open Mon - Sun: 09:45 - 17:00. Information desks are located in the center of the passenger building.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud: Parking, Taxis, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud: Bike Parking, Car Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at Valence TGV Rhône-Alpes Sud: Accessible facilities such as toilets, train platforms, and ramps and additional assistance as needed.
Shops, hotels and contact
Nearby hotels include ibis Styles Romans Valence Gare TGV, Hôtel Première Classe Valence Nord, Bed & Breakfast À la Belle Histoire.
Valence, Gare Routière38 Rue Denis Papin, 26000 Valence, France+33 9 69 32 21 41
City-centre transport
Getting to Valence, Gare Routière from Valence city centre
TrainTer · 7m · $3 · every ~3 min
BusIc · 16m · $3 · every ~4 min
Ic · 17m · $4 · every ~4 min
Valence, Gare Routière train station facilities and services
Valence, Gare Routière has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Parking, Dining, ATM, Accessibility, WC, Hotel, Bike Parking, Bike Rental, and Car Rental.
Food and drink
Food and drink options are available at Valence, Gare Routière.
Wi-Fi and ATMs
Wi-Fi is available at Valence, Gare Routière. ATMs are available at Valence, Gare Routière.
Parking, taxis and toilets
Available at Valence, Gare Routière: Parking, WC.
Bike and car services
Available at Valence, Gare Routière: Bike Parking, Bike Rental, Car Rental.
Accessibility
Accessibility facilities are available at Valence, Gare Routière.
Train stations for Saint-Étienne to Valence
Check train stations information for Saint-Étienne and Valence, including where trains depart and arrive on this route.
The train station in Saint-Étienne that goes to Valence is St-Étienne Châteaucreux, which connects to Valence Ville.
Most popular train connections from Saint-Étienne
Most popular trains to and from Valence and Saint-Étienne
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