The cheapest and fastest trains from Borlänge to Uppsala
Cheapest price
$15
Average price
$41
Fastest journey
1 h 37 m
Average duration
1 h 42 m
Trains per day
107
Distance
141 km
The best way to find a cheap train ticket from Borlänge to Uppsala is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.
The average ticket from Borlänge to Uppsala will cost around $41 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $15.
Of the 107 trains that leave Borlänge for Uppsala on Thu, Nov 06, 4 travel direct so it’s quite easy to avoid journeys where you’ll have to change along the way.
On Thu, Nov 06 the direct trains cover the 141 km distance in an average of 1 h 42 m but if you time it right, some trains will get you there in just 1 h 37 m .
On Thu, Nov 06 the slowest trains will take 1 h 46 m and usually involve a change or two along the way, but you might be able to save a few pennies if you’re on a budget.
27 SJ · 60027 SJ+
2194 Mälartåg
41 SJ
8117 Tåg i Bergslagen+
8500 Mälartåg
8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+
8483 Mälartåg
8192 Tåg i Bergslagen+
8461 Mälartåg
13 SJ
17 SJ
41 SJ
51 SJ
8117 Tåg i Bergslagen+
8500 MälartågTravel Information
Compare train and bus for Borlänge to Uppsala
Omio recommends booking the train as it is the most popular option from Borlänge to Uppsala among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price take the train with prices starting from €12. For those with little time consider booking a train which can get you there in 2h 5m. The ticket price range depends on the travel mode: a train costs an average of €12, and a bus costs an average of €10.
Distance: 87 miles (141 km)
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€17 Average price Cheapest | €22 Average price |
2h 35m Average total duration Fastest 2h 5m Onboard + 30m Additional time* | 3h 14m Average total duration 2h 44m Onboard + 30m Additional time* |
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Live departures
Borlänge to Uppsala train times
The table below shows live departures for Borlänge to Uppsala trains for today, Wednesday, November 5. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated train journeys.
| Provider | Departs | Duration | Arrives | Transfers | Tickets |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
8117 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8500 Mälartåg | 3:31 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h46 | 5:17 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
13 SJ | 4:52 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h37 | 6:29 AM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000 | 4:56 AM Borlänge | 3h03 | 7:59 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000+ 2 UL | 4:57 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h27 | 8:24 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000+ 11 UL | 4:57 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h45 | 8:42 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
296 Dalatrafik+ 8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000 | 5:07 AM Borlänge | 2h52 | 7:59 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
152 Dalatrafik+ 8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000 | 5:10 AM Borlänge | 2h49 | 7:59 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
51 SJ | 5:21 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h43 | 7:04 AM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8158 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 563 SJ 3000 | 5:28 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h31 | 7:59 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
2 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 2 UL | 6:05 AM Borlänge | 2h58 | 9:03 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 253 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 2 UL | 6:05 AM Borlänge | 2h58 | 9:03 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 253 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ | 6:13 AM Borlänge | 2h21 | 8:34 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ | 6:13 AM Borlänge | 2h21 | 8:34 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 11 UL | 6:14 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h59 | 9:13 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 253 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 11 UL | 6:14 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h59 | 9:13 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 253 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 2 UL | 6:14 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h49 | 9:03 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ+ 2 UL | 6:14 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h49 | 9:03 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 6:25 AM Borlänge | 3h50 | 10:15 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 4 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 6:33 AM Borlänge | 3h16 | 9:49 AM Uppsala Central Station | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 6:34 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h41 | 10:15 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 4 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 6:34 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h55 | 10:29 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 4 transfers | |
253 Dalatrafik+ 41 SJ | 6:35 AM Borlänge | 1h59 | 8:34 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
41 SJ | 6:51 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h43 | 8:34 AM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 6:55 AM Borlänge | 2h54 | 9:49 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
8162 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 267 SJ | 7:11 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h38 | 9:49 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
2 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:05 AM Borlänge | 2h59 | 11:04 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 213 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:05 AM Borlänge | 2h59 | 11:04 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ | 8:26 AM Borlänge | 2h09 | 10:35 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:27 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h37 | 11:04 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ+ 8 UL | 8:27 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h01 | 11:28 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 4 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ+ 11 UL | 8:27 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h02 | 11:29 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 8186 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 271 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:35 AM Borlänge | 3h40 | 12:15 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 17 SJ | 8:40 AM Borlänge | 1h55 | 10:35 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
217 Dalatrafik+ 8186 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 271 SJ | 8:44 AM Borlänge | 3h05 | 11:49 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
217 Dalatrafik+ 8186 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 271 SJ+ 11 UL | 8:45 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h45 | 12:30 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
217 Dalatrafik+ 8186 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 271 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:45 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h30 | 12:15 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
17 SJ | 8:55 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h40 | 10:35 AM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8186 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 271 SJ | 9:12 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h37 | 11:49 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
2 Dalatrafik · 370 Dalatrafik+ 19 SJ+ 2 UL | 10:05 AM Borlänge | 2h59 | 1:04 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 19 SJ | 10:26 AM Borlänge | 2h08 | 12:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 19 SJ+ 11 UL | 10:27 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h48 | 1:15 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 19 SJ+ 2 UL | 10:27 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h37 | 1:04 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 8168 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 275 SJ+ 2 UL | 10:35 AM Borlänge | 3h35 | 2:10 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 19 SJ | 10:40 AM Borlänge | 1h54 | 12:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
19 SJ | 10:55 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h39 | 12:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8168 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 275 SJ | 11:12 AM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h38 | 1:50 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ | 11:56 AM Borlänge | 2h38 | 2:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ+ 11 UL | 11:57 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h20 | 3:17 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ+ 2 UL | 11:57 AM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h03 | 3:00 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ+ 2 UL | 12:05 PM Borlänge | 2h55 | 3:00 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 296 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ+ 2 UL | 12:05 PM Borlänge | 2h55 | 3:00 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ | 12:33 PM Borlänge | 3h16 | 3:49 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ+ 11 UL | 12:34 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h57 | 4:31 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ+ 2 UL | 12:34 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h35 | 4:09 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ+ 2 UL | 12:35 PM Borlänge | 3h34 | 4:09 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 21 SJ | 12:40 PM Borlänge | 1h54 | 2:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
152 Dalatrafik+ 8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ | 12:50 PM Borlänge | 2h59 | 3:49 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
21 SJ | 12:54 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h40 | 2:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8170 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 279 SJ | 1:11 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h38 | 3:49 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 47 SJ | 2:13 PM Borlänge | 2h21 | 4:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 47 SJ+ 2 UL | 2:14 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h43 | 4:57 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 47 SJ+ 11 UL | 2:14 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h59 | 5:13 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 47 SJ+ 2 UL | 2:25 PM Borlänge | 2h32 | 4:57 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8172 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 583 SJ 3000 | 2:33 PM Borlänge | 3h26 | 5:59 PM Uppsala Central Station | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8172 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 583 SJ 3000 | 2:34 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h44 | 6:18 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 4 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 153 Dalatrafik+ 8172 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 583 SJ 3000 | 2:34 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 4h07 | 6:41 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 4 transfers | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 47 SJ | 2:42 PM Borlänge | 1h52 | 4:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
153 Dalatrafik+ 8172 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 583 SJ 3000 | 2:55 PM Borlänge | 3h04 | 5:59 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
47 SJ | 2:55 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h39 | 4:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8172 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 583 SJ 3000 | 3:12 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h47 | 5:59 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
3 Dalatrafik · 214 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ | 4:16 PM Borlänge | 2h18 | 6:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 214 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ+ 2 UL | 4:17 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h40 | 6:57 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik · 214 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ+ 11 UL | 4:17 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 2h53 | 7:10 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ+ 2 UL | 4:25 PM Borlänge | 2h32 | 6:57 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 2 transfers | |
214 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ | 4:34 PM Borlänge | 2h00 | 6:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8174 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 287 SJ | 4:36 PM Borlänge | 3h14 | 7:50 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8174 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 287 SJ+ 2 UL | 4:37 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h44 | 8:21 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8174 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 287 SJ+ 11 UL | 4:37 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h59 | 8:36 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 25 SJ | 4:40 PM Borlänge | 1h54 | 6:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
25 SJ | 4:55 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h39 | 6:34 PM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
8174 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 287 SJ | 5:12 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 2h38 | 7:50 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 27 SJ+ 2 UL | 5:25 PM Borlänge | 3h40 | 9:05 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 27 SJ | 5:56 PM Borlänge | 2h41 | 8:37 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 27 SJ+ 11 UL | 5:57 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h31 | 9:28 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 27 SJ+ 2 UL | 5:57 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 3h08 | 9:05 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 2 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg+ 2 UL | 6:25 PM Borlänge | 4h51 | 11:16 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg | 6:26 PM Borlänge | 4h21 | 10:47 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg+ 11 UL | 6:27 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 4h59 | 11:26 PM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg+ 2 UL | 6:27 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 4h49 | 11:16 PM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
27 SJ | 6:48 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 1h49 | 8:37 PM Uppsala Central Station | 0 transfersDirect | |
152 Dalatrafik+ 8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg | 6:50 PM Borlänge | 3h57 | 10:47 PM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
8178 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 8483 Mälartåg | 7:11 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 3h36 | 10:47 PM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
8179 Tåg i Bergslagen · 8029 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 874 UL · 804 UL | 7:14 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 5h09 | 12:23 AM Uppsala Central Station | 3 transfers | |
2 Dalatrafik+ 8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:25 PM Borlänge | 7h30 | 3:55 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ | 8:36 PM Borlänge | 6h34 | 3:10 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ+ 2 UL | 8:37 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 7h18 | 3:55 AM Uppsala Djäknegatan | 3 transfers | |
3 Dalatrafik+ 8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ+ 11 UL | 8:37 PM Borlänge Rosengatan | 7h04 | 3:41 AM Uppsala Granelidsvägen | 3 transfers | |
152 Dalatrafik+ 8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ | 8:50 PM Borlänge | 6h20 | 3:10 AM Uppsala Central Station | 2 transfers | |
8180 Tåg i Bergslagen+ 71 SJ | 9:10 PM Borlänge Centralstation | 6h00 | 3:10 AM Uppsala Central Station | 1 transfer | |
| Thursday, November 6 | |||||
![]() | 2:31 AM Borlänge | 2h35 | 5:06 AM Uppsala | 0 transfersDirect | |
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Journey information
Overview: Train from Borlänge to Uppsala
Distance 87 miles (141 km) |
Average train duration 2h 5m |
Cheapest ticket price $14 (€12) |
Trains per day 48 |
Direct trains 3 |
Fastest train 1h 37m |
First train 00:01 |
Last train 23:56 |
Key Takeaways
Train Ticket Prices
- Budget Options: Train tickets from Borlänge to Uppsala start from as low as $14 (€12) if booked well in advance.
- Standard Fares: Typically, trains cost $21 (€17) depending on the train type and class.
Train companies: SJ, TagiBergslagen, Swedish Railways (SJ) from Borlänge to Uppsala trainsSJ, TagiBergslagen, Swedish Railways (SJ) trains will get you between Borlänge and Uppsala from $13 (€10). With over 1000 travel companies on Omio, you can find the best train times and tickets for your trip.
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FAQs: Trains from Borlänge to Uppsala

popular train stations
Popular train stations from Borlänge to Uppsala
- 6:00 AM - 10:00 PM Monday - Sunday
- Free
- Parking is available near the station with several parking lots in the vicinity.
- Restaurang Liljan
- Broken Dreams
- Outside the main entrance.
- Ramps.
- 5 SEK
- Quality Hotel Galaxen
- Best Western Gustaf Wasa Hotel
- Scandic Borlänge
- Located in the main hall
- Europcar
- Located in the main hall
- Free
- Hall 1: main entrance, platforms 1-5 for regional and long-distance trains
- Bus: Several lines available
- Train: Regional and long-distance connections
- 6:00 AM - 10:00 PM Monday - Sunday
- Free
- The car park is open 7 days a week, 24 hours. Access via Stationsgatan.
- Stationen
- Kitchen & Table Uppsala
- Outside the main entrance.
- Elevators, ramps, restrooms.
- SEK 10
- Radisson Blu Hotel Uppsala
- Elite Hotel Academia
- Clarion Hotel Gillet
- Located in the main hall
- Located in the main hall
- 1200 places, covered
- Avis
- Europcar
- Hertz
- Located in the main hall
- Free
- Hall 1: main entrance, platforms 1-6 for trains to Stockholm, Gävle, and regional destinations
- Bus: Several lines available
- Train: East Coast Line
- Regional trains to Stockholm and Gävle
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