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Overview: Ljubljana to Podgorica flight

SloveniaSlovenia
MontenegroMontenegro
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Flights from Ljubljana to Podgorica depart on average 18 times per day, taking around 3h 28m. Cheap flight tickets for this journey start at $40 if you book in advance.

The earliest flight runs at 07:00, the last at 22:10. The fastest flight covers the 342 miles (552 km) distance in 1h 5m. May is the cheapest month to fly.

Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
Price information
Distance
342 miles (552 km)
Average flight duration
3h 28m
Cheapest ticket price
$40
Flights per day
18
Fastest flight
1h 5m
First flight
7:00 AM
Last flight
10:10 PM
Cheapest Month
May
Cheapest Day
Sat
High Season
Jul - Sep
Low Season
Jan - Mar
Busiest Day
Thu
Least Busy Day
Sun
Best time to book
14 days
Fares are the lowest economy prices found on Omio. Early booking often means lower prices. Prices change daily and are subject to availability. Discount cards, coach trips, and booking fees are not included.
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The cheapest and fastest flights from Ljubljana to Podgorica

Showing times, prices and bookable tickets for Sep 19

Cheapest price on Sep 19

$115

Average ticket price on Sep 19

$202

Fastest journey on Sep 19

10 h 50 m

Average journey duration on Sep 19

12 h 48 m

Flights on Sep 19

3

Distance

552 km

Cheap tickets

The best way to find a cheap flight ticket from Ljubljana to Podgorica is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.

The average ticket from Ljubljana to Podgorica will cost around $202 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $115.

Fast flights

On Sat, Sep 19, we found 3 flights from Ljubljana to Podgorica, including 3 direct services.

On Sat, Sep 19 the direct flights cover the 552 km distance in an average of 12 h 48 m but if you time it right, some flights will get you there in just 10 h 50 m .

On Sat, Sep 19 the longest flights will take 16 h 35 m and usually involve a change or two along the way, but you might be able to save a few pennies if you’re on a budget.

  • Air Serbia
    7:45 PM11h00
    Ljubljana
    6:45 AMPodgorica
    $1151One-way
    0 transfers
  • Air Serbia
    1:15 PM16h35
    Ljubljana
    5:50 AMPodgorica
    $1661One-way
    0 transfers
  • Air Serbia
    7:55 PM10h50
    Ljubljana
    6:45 AMPodgorica
    $3241One-way
    0 transfers

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Omio recommends booking the flight as it is the most popular option from Ljubljana to Podgorica among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price, take the flight, with an average ticket price of $447 For those with little time, consider booking a flight, which has an average total journey time of 5h 28m. Average ticket prices depend on the travel mode: a flight costs an average of $447, while a flight costs an average of $447.

Distance: 342 miles (552 km)

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The cheapest way to travel from Ljubljana to Podgorica is a flight with an average price of $447.
The fastest way to travel from Ljubljana to Podgorica is by flight with an average journey time of 3h 28m.
It's helpful to compare your options as there are 2 ways to travel between Ljubljana and Podgorica including taking a bus and flight.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Ljubljana to Podgorica among Omio's users.

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Ljubljana to Podgorica flight times

The table below shows live departures for Ljubljana to Podgorica flights for today, Friday, September 18. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated flight journeys.

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ProviderDepartsDurationArrivesTransfers
Tickets
Air BalticSN3344 · SN2901+Austrian AirlinesOS7356:30 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
19h30
2:00 PM Podgorica Airport2 transfers
LufthansaLH1699+Austrian AirlinesLH6322 · LH63808:05 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
17h55
2:00 PM Podgorica Airport2 transfers
Turkish AirlinesTK1064 · TK10878:25 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
23h30
7:55 PM Podgorica Airport1 transfer
Turkish AirlinesTK1064 · TK10858:25 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
12h15
8:40 AM Podgorica Airport1 transfer
Air SerbiaJU625 · JU6608:40 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
10h45
7:25 AM Podgorica Airport1 transfer
Air SerbiaJU625 · JU6628:40 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
17h50
2:30 PM Podgorica Airport1 transfer
Air SerbiaJU625 · JU6648:40 PM Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport
24h40
9:20 PM Podgorica Airport1 transfer
Saturday, September 19
Air Serbia1:15 PM Ljubljana
16h35
5:50 AM Podgorica0 transfersDirect

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Why should you book Ljubljana to Podgorica flights with Omio?

Wizz Air as well as Air Serbia offer flights services from Ljubljana to Podgorica.
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Why book with Omio vs Wizz Air?

  • Compare with other providers: On Omio, you can not only buy tickets for Wizz Air, but also compare tickets for the likes of Air Serbia to find the best option for your trip from Ljubljana to Podgorica.
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  • Compare with other providers: On Omio, you can also compare tickets for the likes of Air Serbia to find the best option for your trip from Ljubljana to Podgorica.
  • Multiple modes of transport: Omio allows you to compare travel options including bus and flight to find the ideal travel option from Ljubljana to Podgorica.

Airlines: Austrian Airlines, Air Serbia, Air Baltic, Wizz Air, Brussels Airlines, CitizenPlane from Ljubljana to PodgoricaFind the best flights between Ljubljana to Podgorica with Omio's travel partners Austrian Airlines, Air Serbia, Air Baltic, Wizz Air, Brussels Airlines, CitizenPlane from $40. We can find you the best deals, schedules and tickets when comparing and booking the best trip.

Austrian Airlines

About
Austrian Airlines is the flag carrier of Austria and a member of the Lufthansa Group, offering flights across Europe and to long-haul destinations in Asia, North America, and beyond. Operating primarily from Vienna International Airport, Austrian combines efficiency with warm hospitality. Economy Class passengers enjoy comfort, onboard entertainment, and meals, while Business Class offers spacious seating, fine dining inspired by Austrian cuisine, and lounge access. With a reputation for quality service and reliable connections, Austrian Airlines is a trusted choice for travelers worldwide
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Austrian Airlines Duration
3h 20m
Cheapest Austrian Airlines Price
$245
Austrian Airlines frequency
15 a day
Luggage included
1 carry-on bag (max. 8kg, 55x40x23cm) and 1 personal item (40x30x10cm) included in Economy
Additional luggage
Additional baggage can be purchased online or at the airport. Fees vary by route.
Cancellation Policy
Refund depends on ticket type - Light fares non-refundable, Classic and Flex fares refundable with fee.
Pregnant on board
Pregnant women can travel until end of 36th week (32nd week for multiple pregnancies). Medical certificate required after 28th week.
Unaccompagned minor
Unaccompanied minor service available for children aged 5-11 (mandatory) and 12-17 (optional). Must be booked at least 48 hours in advance.
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
Food sold onboard
USB plugs
Accessibility
Austrian Airlines provides assistance for passengers with reduced mobility. Pre-notification required 48 hours before departure.
Pets
Small pets in cabin, max 8kg including transport container. Larger animals in cargo hold.
Entertaiment on board

Air Serbia

About
Air Serbia is the national flag carrier of Serbia, with its main hub at Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport. The airline's origins trace back to Aeroput, established in 1927, making it one of the oldest airlines in Europe. Rebranded as Air Serbia in 2013 after a partnership with Etihad Airways, the airline has since modernized its fleet and expanded its network. Air Serbia operates scheduled, seasonal, and charter flights to over 90 destinations across Europe, the Mediterranean, North America, Asia, and Africa. They offer both passenger and cargo services, and in cooperation with partner airlines, extend their reach to international destinations in Asia, Australia, North America, and Africa. The airline is a member of the International Air Transport Association (IATA).
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Air Serbia Duration
1h 55m
Cheapest Air Serbia Price
$89
Air Serbia frequency
6 a day
Luggage included
1 piece of hand luggage (8kg, 55x40x23cm) and 1 personal item (40x30x20cm) included in standard ticket.
Additional luggage
Additional checked baggage can be purchased, with varying fees based on route and timing of purchase.
Cancellation Policy
Refundable tickets can be cancelled for a fee, non-refundable tickets cannot be cancelled but taxes may be refunded.
Pregnant on board
Pregnancy up to 28th week: no restrictions. From 28th to end of 36th week: medical certificate required. After 36th week: not allowed to fly.
Unaccompagned minor
Unaccompanied minor service available for children aged 5-16. Must be booked at least 24 hours before departure. Service fee applies.
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
USB plugs
Accessibility
Air Serbia provides special assistance for passengers with reduced mobility, including wheelchair assistance and support throughout the journey.
Pets
Small pets in cabin (up to 8kg including carrier) or cargo hold for larger animals.
Entertaiment on board

Air Baltic

About
AirBaltic is the flag carrier of Latvia and a leading hybrid airline in the Baltics, combining aspects of traditional network and low-cost carriers. Founded in 1995, it operates a modern fleet of Airbus A220-300 aircraft, connecting the Baltics from hubs in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnius, and Tampere to over 70 destinations across Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, and the Caucasus. The company is majority-owned by the Latvian state. AirBaltic is recognized for its commitment to passenger experience, having received awards for cabin service and being among the world's safest airlines. In a pioneering move, AirBaltic became the first European airline to offer free high-speed SpaceX Starlink internet on its flights in February 2025.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Air Baltic Duration
4h 50m
Cheapest Air Baltic Price
$364
Air Baltic frequency
2 a day
Luggage included
1 cabin bag (55x40x23 cm) max 8kg
Additional luggage
Checked baggage up to 23kg can be purchased
Cancellation Policy
Refundable tickets available with Premium fare, Basic tickets non-refundable but changeable for fee
Pregnant on board
Until week 36, medical certificate required after week 28
Unaccompagned minor
Available for children aged 5-17, must be booked at least 48h in advance, service fee applies
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
USB plugs
Accessibility
Assistance available for passengers with reduced mobility, must be requested at least 48h before departure
Pets
Small pets in cabin, max 8kg including carrier, must be booked in advance
Entertaiment on board

Brussels Airlines

About
Brussels Airlines is the flag carrier of Belgium and a member of the Lufthansa Group, offering flights across Europe, Africa, North America, and the Middle East. Operating from its main hub at Brussels Airport, the airline provides a modern fleet with Economy fares for affordable travel and Business Class for added comfort, premium dining, and lounge access
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Brussels Airlines Duration
4h 45m
Cheapest Brussels Airlines Price
$560
Brussels Airlines frequency
2 a day
Luggage included
1 piece of hand luggage (max 55x40x23cm) and 1 personal item (max 40x30x10cm)
Additional luggage
Additional checked baggage can be purchased, max 32kg per piece
Cancellation Policy
Free cancellation within 24h of booking if flight is more than a week away, otherwise fees apply based on fare type.
Pregnant on board
Up to 36 weeks for single pregnancy, 32 weeks for multiple. Medical certificate required after 28 weeks
Unaccompagned minor
UMNR service available for children aged 5-11 (mandatory) and 12-17 (optional). Must be booked at least 48h in advance
Amenities on board the airplane
Wifi
USB plugs
Accessibility
Brussels Airlines provides assistance for passengers with reduced mobility. Pre-notification required 48h before departure.
Pets
Small pets under 8kg allowed in cabin, larger ones in hold. Must be booked in advance
Entertaiment on board

Wizz Air

About
Wizz Air is one of the leading low-cost airlines in Europe, connecting travelers to destinations across the continent and beyond, including the Middle East and Central Asia. With its hub network centered in Eastern and Central Europe, Wizz Air offers affordable flights with flexible fare options. Passengers can choose from Basic, Wizz Go, Wizz Plus, and Flex tickets, each tailored to different travel needs—from the most economical choice to options with baggage, seat selection, and flexibility included.
Luggage & cancellation policy
Average Wizz Air Duration
1h 15m
Cheapest Wizz Air Price
$40
Wizz Air frequency
1 a day
Luggage included
Only small personal item 40x30x20cm
Additional luggage
Extra cabin bag 55x40x23cm and checked baggage up to 32kg available for purchase
Cancellation Policy
Basic fare tickets non-refundable, Flex fare allows cancellation for 100% refund in WIZZ credit
Pregnant on board
Pregnant women can travel up to the end of the 34th week of pregnancy. Medical certificate required after 28th week
Unaccompagned minor
Wizz Air does not accept unaccompanied minors under 14. Passengers aged 14-16 must have a signed parental consent form
Amenities on board the airplane
Accessibility
Wizz Air provides assistance for passengers with reduced mobility, must be requested at least 48 hours before departure

CitizenPlane

Luggage & cancellation policy
Average CitizenPlane Duration
1h 5m
Cheapest CitizenPlane Price
$97
CitizenPlane frequency
1 a day

Complete guide to Podgorica

Things to do in Podgorica

Discover the best of Podgorica — top attractions, local food, transport tips, budget advice, and currency essentials. Plan your perfect Podgorica trip today.

  • Must visit

Museum of Contemporary Art of Montenegro

Leading contemporary art venue with rotating exhibitions by Montenegrin and international artists in a modern gallery setting.

  • Recommended

National Museum of Montenegro

Montenegro’s principal museum in Podgorica, presenting archaeology, history, and cultural heritage in one central institution.

  • Recommended

Modern Gallery

Art gallery in the Petrović palace complex featuring modern and contemporary exhibitions in an important historic setting.

Euro (€)

More affordable than many Western European capitals. Hotels, casual meals, and local transit are usually reasonably priced for tourists.

Average meal costs

Budget
€6-10 for fast food or simple local meals.
Mid-range
€15-25 per person for a restaurant meal.
Fine dining
€35-60+ per person for upscale dining.
Coffee
€1.50-3 for coffee or cappuccino.

Tipping culture

Tipping is appreciated but not mandatory. In restaurants, round up or leave 5-10%. For cafes and taxis, round up the bill for good service.

FAQs: Ljubljana to Podgorica Flight

Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Ljubljana to Podgorica by flight. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest flight, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Podgorica, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.

FAQs
Cheap plane tickets from Ljubljana to Podgorica can start from as little as $40 when you book in advance. The average flight ticket price for Ljubljana to Podgorica is $447 ; however, prices vary depending on the time of day and class and they tend to be more expensive on the day.
The average journey time by plane from Ljubljana to Podgorica is 1h 5m to travel the 342 miles (552 km) long route. Journey times can vary on weekends and holidays, so use our Journey Planner to search for a specific date.
The earliest flight from Ljubljana to Podgorica leaves at 7:00 AM. Plan your trip with the Journey Planner from Omio.
The latest flight from Ljubljana to Podgorica leaves at 10:10 PM.
There are 18 flights a day from Ljubljana to Podgorica which require at least one change with Wizz Air, Air Serbia. Schedules can vary on holidays or weekends with fewer flights.
When taking a flight from Ljubljana to Podgorica, you can count on Wizz Air, Air Serbia for the best way to get you to Podgorica. You can also check all possible airlines who offer a service between Ljubljana and Podgorica and compare the amenities they offer before buying a plane ticket.
Flights from Ljubljana to Podgorica generally leave from Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport and arrive in Podgorica Airport.Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport is 12 miles (20 km) away from Ljubljana city centre and Podgorica Airport is 0 miles (1 km) from Podgorica city centre.
The cheapest month for a flight from Ljubljana to Podgorica is May.
It's helpful to compare your options as there are 2 ways to travel between Ljubljana and Podgorica including taking a bus and flight.
Podgorica is outside the Schengen Area. Travelers departing from Ljubljana will need a valid passport and may require a visa depending on their nationality. Entry and visa requirements can be subject to change. For the latest information, check with your destination's embassy or consulate.
There is no time difference between Ljubljana and Podgorica.
Some of the most interesting sights to explore in Podgorica are:
  • Millennium Bridge, a modern cable-stayed bridge offering panoramic views of the Morača River
  • St. George Church, a historic Orthodox church dating back to the 10th century with beautiful frescoes
  • Ribnica Bridge, an ancient stone bridge from the Ottoman period located at the confluence of the Ribnica and Morača rivers
  • Podgorica City Museum, a museum showcasing the cultural and historical heritage of Podgorica and Montenegro
  • Gorica Hill, a popular recreational area with hiking trails and a viewpoint overlooking the city.
The best events to attend in Podgorica include:
  • Podgorica Carnival, a colorful parade featuring traditional costumes and performances
  • Montenegro Film Festival, showcasing local and international films with various screenings
  • Podgorica Wine Festival, celebrating local wines with tastings and workshops
  • International Book Fair, a gathering of authors and publishers promoting literature and culture.
The best things to do in Podgorica include:
  • Explore the Old Town, a historic area with Ottoman-era architecture and charming narrow streets
  • Discover the Natural History Museum, showcasing Montenegro's diverse flora and fauna
  • Relax in Gorica Park, a popular green space ideal for walking and picnicking
  • Tour the Cathedral of the Resurrection of Christ, a modern Serbian Orthodox cathedral with impressive frescoes
  • Enjoy a performance at the Montenegrin National Theatre, offering a variety of cultural events and performances.
The best holidays to experience in Podgorica include:
  • New Year's Day, mild winter weather and local celebrations
  • Statehood Day, national pride with various cultural events
  • Christmas, traditional festivities and family gatherings
  • Labor Day, pleasant spring weather and outdoor activities.
We recommend using the flight as it is the most popular way to get from Ljubljana to Podgorica among Omio's users.
The best season to visit Podgorica is Spring, Summer, or Fall. The best weather to explore Podgorica is during May-June or September-October.
For international flights we recommend to arrive 2.5 to 3 hours before departure. Please check the website of your departure airport if in doubt. Some airports may offer booking time slots for security checks or offer additional information on when to get there based on time of day.
Most airlines permit carry-on bags that fit within specific dimensions (e.g., 22 x 14 x 9 inches or 56 x 36 x 23 cm), including handles and wheels. Bags must fit in the overhead bin or under the seat in front of you.
Many airlines impose weight limits, commonly ranging between 7 kg (15 lbs) and 12 kg (26 lbs). Typically, passengers are allowed one carry-on bag and one personal item (for example a purse, laptop bag, or backpack). Personal items must fit under the seat in front of you. Budget Airlines (like Ryanair or Wizz Air) have stricter size and weight limits, often requiring fees for larger carry-ons. Full-Service Airlines have more lenient policies, sometimes including more spacious dimensions or higher weight limits depending on your ticket class.
The list of items prohibited on an airplane varies by country and airline, but in general, the following items are not allowed in carry-on or checked baggage: Weapons and self-defence items, sharp objects, flammable materials, explosives, toxic substances, or liquids over 100ml (except for medications and baby essentials). In checked baggage, firearms (without authorization), explosives, large lithium batteries, and hazardous chemicals are prohibited. Electronic cigarettes must be in carry-on bags, while alcohol and dry ice have restrictions. Always check with your airline for specific regulations.
Montenegro uses the euro (EUR) as its currency. Travelers generally find it convenient to use cards for most payments, especially in cities and larger businesses, but carrying some cash is advisable for smaller shops, markets, and rural areas where card acceptance may be limited.
In Podgorica, travelers should be cautious of petty theft, especially pickpocketing in crowded areas and on public transportation. It's advisable to avoid unlicensed taxi services to prevent overcharging. Scams involving inflated prices at bars or restaurants targeting foreigners have been reported, so confirming prices beforehand is recommended. Overall, exercising standard travel vigilance ensures a safe visit.
Pack lightweight, versatile clothing suitable for the destination's climate, and use secure, lockable luggage to protect belongings. Keep essential items like travel documents, medication, and valuables in a carry-on bag for easy access. Use packing organizers or cubes to maximize space and maintain order. Lastly, include a small first aid kit and personal hygiene items for added comfort during travel.

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Popular airports from Ljubljana to Podgorica

Most Ljubljana to Podgorica flights use the Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport to Podgorica Airport airport pair. Use this guide to compare Ljubljana and Podgorica airports on this route, check city-centre transport, alongside checking practicalities like airport facilities and services.

Departure airports in Ljubljana
Arrival airports in Podgorica

Which Ljubljana airport do flights to Podgorica leave from?

Flights from Ljubljana to Podgorica depart from Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport. The airport is 12 miles (20 km) from Ljubljana city centre at Zgornji Brnik 130a, 4210 Brnik-Aerodrom, Slovenia.
Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport (LJU)Zgornji Brnik 130a, 4210 Brnik-Aerodrom, SloveniaWifiShoppingParkingATMTaxisAccessibilityWCShowerLoungeLost and Found Office
City-centre transport

Getting to Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport from Ljubljana city centre

Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport is 20 km from Ljubljana city centre. Public transport options include:

Bus20m · $43
Pr A22 6370 4, Pr A22 6475 3, Pr A22 6476 4 · 27m · $4 · every ~3 min
Pr A22 6370 4, Pr A22 6475 3, Pr A22 6476 4, Pr A22 6477 3 · 30m · $4 · every ~3 min
Shuttle23m
23m
23m · $33
1h 0m

Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport airport facilities and services

Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport has practical services for this route, including Wifi, Shopping, Parking, ATM, Taxis, Accessibility, WC, Shower, Lounge, and Lost and Found Office.

Wi-Fi and ATMs

Free Wi-Fi available throughout the airport. ATMs are located in the terminal.

Luggage and lost property

Lost and found is available at the station.

Parking, taxis and toilets

Available at Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport: Parking, Taxis, WC.

Accessibility

Accessibility facilities are available at Ljubljana Joze Pucnik Airport: Elevators, ramps.

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