The cheapest and fastest buses from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi
Cheapest price
$10
Average price
$10
Fastest journey
7 h 40 m
Average duration
7 h 53 m
Buses per day
2
Distance
299 km
The best way to find a cheap bus ticket from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi is to book your journey as far in advance as possible and to avoid traveling at rush hour.
The average ticket from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi will cost around $10 if you buy it on the day, but the cheapest tickets can be found for only $10.
Of the 2 buses that leave Hà Tĩnh for Hanoi on Sun, Nov 09, 2 travel direct so it’s quite easy to avoid journeys where you’ll have to change along the way.
On Sun, Nov 09 the direct buses cover the 299 km distance in an average of 7 h 53 m but if you time it right, some buses will get you there in just 7 h 40 m .
On Sun, Nov 09 the slowest buses will take 8 h 5 m and usually involve a change or two along the way, but you might be able to save a few pennies if you’re on a budget.




Travel Information
Compare bus and flight for Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi
Omio recommends booking the bus as it is the most popular option from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi among Omio's users. If you are prioritising price take the bus with prices starting from €9. For those with little time consider booking a flight which can get you there in 2h 15m. The ticket price range depends on the travel mode: a bus costs an average of €9, and a flight costs an average of €56.
Distance: 185 miles (299 km)
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Most popular Bus | Flight |
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€9 Average price Cheapest | €77 Average price |
7h 0m Average total duration 6h 30m Onboard + 30m Additional time* | 5h 15m Average total duration Fastest 2h 15m Onboard + 3h 0m Additional time* |
Direct Options | Direct Options |
Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi Bus Timetables
| Operator | Departure Time | Arrival Time | Duration | Departure days | Cheapest price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Operator Camel Travel | Departure Time 01:05AM | Arrival Time 07:50AM | Duration 6h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $26 |
Operator Duy Khánh Limousine | Departure Time 01:50AM | Arrival Time 11:20AM | Duration 9h30 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator G8 SAPA OPEN TOUR | Departure Time 02:45AM | Arrival Time 07:30AM | Duration 4h45 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator G8 SAPA OPEN TOUR | Departure Time 03:00AM | Arrival Time 07:45AM | Duration 4h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator G8 SAPA OPEN TOUR | Departure Time 03:30AM | Arrival Time 08:15AM | Duration 4h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator G8 SAPA OPEN TOUR | Departure Time 04:00AM | Arrival Time 08:45AM | Duration 4h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator G8 SAPA OPEN TOUR | Departure Time 04:30AM | Arrival Time 09:15AM | Duration 4h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 06:00AM | Arrival Time 01:55PM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 06:30AM | Arrival Time 02:00PM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 06:45AM | Arrival Time 03:00PM | Duration 8h15 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 06:45AM | Arrival Time 01:55PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 07:00AM | Arrival Time 03:00PM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator Anh Quốc Limousine (Hà Tĩnh) | Departure Time 07:00AM | Arrival Time 12:00PM | Duration 5h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 07:45AM | Arrival Time 01:55PM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator VXB_12764 | Departure Time 08:00AM | Arrival Time 02:00PM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 08:00AM | Arrival Time 06:00PM | Duration 10h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $16 |
Operator Tân Minh Hà | Departure Time 08:30AM | Arrival Time 03:30PM | Duration 7h00 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $15 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 08:30AM | Arrival Time 06:00PM | Duration 9h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $14 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 08:40AM | Arrival Time 04:40PM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 09:10AM | Arrival Time 04:40PM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:25AM | Arrival Time 05:20PM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 09:30AM | Arrival Time 01:00AM | Duration 15h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $20 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 10:00AM | Arrival Time 06:00PM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:10AM | Arrival Time 05:20PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:30AM | Arrival Time 06:25PM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 10:45AM | Arrival Time 08:00PM | Duration 9h15 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:00AM | Arrival Time 06:55PM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 11:00AM | Arrival Time 07:45PM | Duration 8h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 11:00AM | Arrival Time 08:45PM | Duration 9h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator VXB_12700 | Departure Time 11:00AM | Arrival Time 07:10PM | Duration 8h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Anh Quốc Limousine (Hà Tĩnh) | Departure Time 11:00AM | Arrival Time 04:00PM | Duration 5h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:10AM | Arrival Time 05:20PM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:15AM | Arrival Time 06:25PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 11:25AM | Arrival Time 07:30PM | Duration 8h05 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 11:40AM | Arrival Time 08:15PM | Duration 8h35 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:45AM | Arrival Time 06:55PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 11:50AM | Arrival Time 07:20PM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 11:55AM | Arrival Time 07:30PM | Duration 7h35 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 12:00PM | Arrival Time 08:45PM | Duration 8h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 12:10PM | Arrival Time 08:45PM | Duration 8h35 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator Thăng Long | Departure Time 12:10PM | Arrival Time 07:45PM | Duration 7h35 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 12:15PM | Arrival Time 06:25PM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 12:45PM | Arrival Time 06:55PM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 01:00PM | Arrival Time 08:55PM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Thiên Hà Limousine | Departure Time 01:30PM | Arrival Time 09:00PM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $19 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 01:45PM | Arrival Time 08:55PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 02:00PM | Arrival Time 09:10PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Anh Quốc Limousine (Hà Tĩnh) | Departure Time 02:00PM | Arrival Time 07:00PM | Duration 5h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 02:45PM | Arrival Time 08:55PM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 03:00PM | Arrival Time 10:10PM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 04:45PM | Arrival Time 08:15AM | Duration 15h30 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $20 |
Operator Anh Quốc Limousine (Hà Tĩnh) | Departure Time 06:00PM | Arrival Time 11:00PM | Duration 5h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 06:00PM | Arrival Time 09:30AM | Duration 15h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $20 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 07:15PM | Arrival Time 05:10AM | Duration 9h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $16 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 08:00PM | Arrival Time 06:30AM | Duration 10h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $15 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 08:00PM | Arrival Time 03:55AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Duy Khánh Limousine | Departure Time 08:20PM | Arrival Time 04:20AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 08:30PM | Arrival Time 04:25AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 08:40PM | Arrival Time 04:35AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 08:45PM | Arrival Time 03:55AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 09:00PM | Arrival Time 04:30AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:00PM | Arrival Time 04:55AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 09:00PM | Arrival Time 05:00AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Tân Minh Hà | Departure Time 09:00PM | Arrival Time 04:00AM | Duration 7h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $15 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 09:00PM | Arrival Time 06:10AM | Duration 9h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $20 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:15PM | Arrival Time 04:25AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator VXB_12700 | Departure Time 09:15PM | Arrival Time 05:25AM | Duration 8h10 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 09:20PM | Arrival Time 05:00AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 09:20PM | Arrival Time 06:30AM | Duration 9h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:25PM | Arrival Time 04:35AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:30PM | Arrival Time 05:25AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 09:30PM | Arrival Time 05:10AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator VXB_12764 | Departure Time 09:30PM | Arrival Time 03:30AM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Tân Quang Dũng Express | Departure Time 09:35PM | Arrival Time 04:55AM | Duration 7h20 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 09:35PM | Arrival Time 05:00AM | Duration 7h25 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 09:45PM | Arrival Time 04:55AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 09:45PM | Arrival Time 01:15PM | Duration 15h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $20 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 09:50PM | Arrival Time 05:00AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 05:30AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 05:55AM | Duration 7h55 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Văn Minh | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 06:30AM | Duration 8h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 06:00AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator VXB_12764 | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 04:00AM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $12 |
Operator Thiên Hà Limousine | Departure Time 10:00PM | Arrival Time 05:30AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $19 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:01PM | Arrival Time 06:01AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Thiên Hà Limousine | Departure Time 10:05PM | Arrival Time 05:35AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $19 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:10PM | Arrival Time 05:20AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:15PM | Arrival Time 04:25AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Tân Quang Dũng Express | Departure Time 10:15PM | Arrival Time 04:45AM | Duration 6h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:20PM | Arrival Time 06:00AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:21PM | Arrival Time 06:01AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:25PM | Arrival Time 04:35AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 10:30PM | Arrival Time 06:00AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Đức Thịnh Limousine | Departure Time 10:30PM | Arrival Time 04:30AM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $18 |
Operator VXB_12764 | Departure Time 10:30PM | Arrival Time 04:30AM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator VXB_12700 | Departure Time 10:31PM | Arrival Time 06:41AM | Duration 8h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator VXB_12700 | Departure Time 10:32PM | Arrival Time 06:42AM | Duration 8h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:35PM | Arrival Time 06:00AM | Duration 7h25 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:36PM | Arrival Time 06:01AM | Duration 7h25 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 10:45PM | Arrival Time 04:55AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:50PM | Arrival Time 06:00AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 10:51PM | Arrival Time 06:01AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:00PM | Arrival Time 07:00AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Quang Dũng VIP Limousine | Departure Time 11:00PM | Arrival Time 08:15AM | Duration 9h15 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $19 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 11:00PM | Arrival Time 06:30AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:01PM | Arrival Time 07:01AM | Duration 8h00 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Phú Quý | Departure Time 11:01PM | Arrival Time 06:31AM | Duration 7h30 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Camel Travel | Departure Time 11:05PM | Arrival Time 05:50AM | Duration 6h45 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:10PM | Arrival Time 05:20AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:15PM | Arrival Time 05:25AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $13 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:20PM | Arrival Time 07:00AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:21PM | Arrival Time 07:01AM | Duration 7h40 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Đức Thịnh Limousine | Departure Time 11:30PM | Arrival Time 05:30AM | Duration 6h00 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $25 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:35PM | Arrival Time 07:00AM | Duration 7h25 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:36PM | Arrival Time 07:01AM | Duration 7h25 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $17 |
Operator Mận Vũ | Departure Time 11:45PM | Arrival Time 05:55AM | Duration 6h10 | Departure days Mon, Sat | Cheapest price $22 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:50PM | Arrival Time 07:00AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $11 |
Operator Hiếu Viện | Departure Time 11:51PM | Arrival Time 07:01AM | Duration 7h10 | Departure days Mon | Cheapest price $17 |
Live departures
Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi bus times
The table below shows live departures for Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi buses for tomorrow, Sunday, November 9. You can also manually refresh the results below to see updated bus journeys.
| Provider | Departs | Duration | Arrives | Transfers | Tickets |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() | 4:55 AM Hà Tĩnh | 8h05 | 1:00 PM Hanoi | 0 transfersDirect | |
![]() | 3:25 PM Hà Tĩnh | 7h40 | 11:05 PM Hanoi | 0 transfersDirect | |
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Journey information
Overview: Bus from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi
Buses from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi run on average 59 times per day, taking around 6h 30m. Cheap bus tickets for this journey start at $10 (€9) if you book in advance.
There are 59 buses per day. The earliest bus runs at 01:00, the last at 23:55. The fastest bus covers the 185 miles (299 km) distance in 5h 0m.
Distance 185 miles (299 km) |
Average bus duration 6h 30m |
Cheapest ticket price $10 (€9) |
Buses per day 59 |
Direct buses 59 |
Fastest bus 5h 0m |
First bus 01:00 |
Last bus 23:55 |
Bus providers: Phú Quý from Hà Tĩnh to HanoiYou can travel by bus between Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi with Phú Quý for as low as $10 (€9). When you search for schedules and tickets, Omio will show you the best journey
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FAQs: Bus from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi
Find answers to the most common questions about traveling from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi by bus. From journey times and ticket prices to direct connections, first and last departures, and even whether the route is scenic, our FAQs cover everything you need to plan your trip. Whether you’re looking for the fastest bus, the cheapest option, or tips for making the most of your visit at Hanoi, this guide helps you travel smarter and with confidence.

- Phú Quý
- The cancellation policy of Phu Quy can vary by ticket class, individual trips or possible promotions.
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- Phú Quý
- Large luggage is stored in the bus' trunk, while small personal items can be brought onboard.
- Phú Quý
- Additional luggage can be purchased with weight and size restrictions.
popular bus stations
Popular bus stations from Hà Tĩnh to Hanoi
- 06:00-22:00
- Free parking area available for motorcycles and cars
- Basic food stalls and small restaurants nearby
- Available at the terminal entrance
- Basic ramps available
- Public toilets available
- Bus: Local city buses
- 05:00-22:00
- Street parking available
- Small food stalls and vendors nearby
- Taxis available at the terminal entrance
- Wheelchair accessible
- Public toilets available
- Bus: 01, 03, 14, 22, 32
- 05:00-22:00
- Free Wi-Fi available
- Street parking available
- Local food stalls and small restaurants nearby
- Available at designated taxi stands
- Basic ramps available
- Public toilets available
- Bus: 01, 02, 03, 04, 09, 27, 32, 33
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